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# 51
02-13-2013, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by paragon92518 View Post
Because the Devs give the superior ships to the KDF (to shut up the players b/c of lack of KDF content) --- that's why.

It's a noble idea of yours, unfortunately, it's limited to a pipe dream.
LMAO. That the funniest thing I heard yet in this thread.

No, seriuosly. I almost spotted myself with laughter and then I realized you think its true....

And I laughed some more.
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# 52
02-13-2013, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by squatsauce View Post
I really do think the issue of a cloaking device for federation ships needs to be addressed permanently and decisively. Since Cryptic is busy making more game content, I will save them some workshopping and make the following amazing proposal:

Wandering randomly around the galaxy is a special Ferengi merchant. It has no distinguishing features and there's no way to tell it apart from the others on sight. If one can get within .5 ly of it, though, a special "black market" button appears in the interaction menu.

This Ferengi Merchant will offer a special "Discount Cloaking Device" universal console. This console boosts nothing and only comes with a special toggle-able power called "Federation Cloak."

Activating this power causes a large cape-and-hood style cloak to appear around the ship's "neck". This cape is blue and has a Federation logo on it.

This way, everyone will be happy.
Yes Yes Yes!!!!!!!!!
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# 53
02-13-2013, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
LMAO. That the funniest thing I heard yet in this thread.

No, seriuosly. I almost spotted myself with laughter and then I realized you think its true....

And I laughed some more.
In what dimension, in what galaxy, on what planet, by which language could you actually believe what I said was not true. (The most recent example...) The 2 newest ships coming into STO are the Fleet Kamarag and Fleet Ambassador.

Breaking down what each one has over the other....

Fleet Kamarag Battle Cruiser

Can Equip Cannons
Extra Universal Consoles
Base Turn Rate: 10.5 degrees per second
Cloaking Device
+10 Weapon Power, +10 Engine Power

VS.

Ambassador Fleet Support Cruiser Retrofit

+4,950 hull
+1 Device Slot
+5 to All Subsystem Power


So..what would YOU rather have?

+10 Weapons, a +3.5 base turn increase, (1) EXTRA Universal Console, along with the ability to equip Cannons


Or.....

+4,950 hull, +1 device slot, and a +5 to subsystems.


And this is just recent ships. It's a repeated pattern in STO. If these 2 ships met in combat, I give the Ambassador a minute, possibly 2, before she goes up in flames.

Would you like to trade ship statistics for the Ambassador and Kamarag? I didn't think so!


Thanks for the entertainment!...Hey, I'll trade you a $50 bill for a $100.
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# 54
02-13-2013, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by paragon92518 View Post
Because the Devs give the superior ships to the KDF (to shut up the players b/c of lack of KDF content) --- that's why.

It's a noble idea of yours, unfortunately, it's limited to a pipe dream.
LOOL
Please learn to setup your ship before making such ridiculous accusations.

How about 5 tac console ships, huh? The only KDF ship that has 5 tac.consoles has the turn rate of Saturn!

I rarely PvP as Fed., but when I do I rarely get popped, a couple of times only against some of the best KDF players. And I fly a Galaxy - dubbed as the worst ship in STO. lol
There's your KDF superiority.

The only thing you have proven so far is that you know how to read comparison stats. on paper that someone posted, and if I might add, they are inncorect as well. Fortunately enough, the game does not resolve around by comparing papers with charts.

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Originally Posted by squatsauce View Post
I really do think the issue of a cloaking device for federation ships needs to be addressed permanently and decisively. Since Cryptic is busy making more game content, I will save them some workshopping and make the following amazing proposal:

Wandering randomly around the galaxy is a special Ferengi merchant. It has no distinguishing features and there's no way to tell it apart from the others on sight. If one can get within .5 ly of it, though, a special "black market" button appears in the interaction menu.

This Ferengi Merchant will offer a special "Discount Cloaking Device" universal console. This console boosts nothing and only comes with a special toggle-able power called "Federation Cloak."

Activating this power causes a large cape-and-hood style cloak to appear around the ship's "neck". This cape is blue and has a Federation logo on it.

This way, everyone will be happy.
BEST. PROPOSAL. EVER.
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# 55
02-13-2013, 02:09 PM
shpoks,

Sounds a little too personal...I think you'd rather diffuse and deflect...and hey why not? I'd rather fly the KDF counterpart over the Fed myself anyway.

BTW, I'm ready (and willingly) open to a PVP match anytime.
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# 56
02-13-2013, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by paragon92518 View Post
shpoks,

Sounds a little too personal...I think you'd rather diffuse and deflect...and hey why not? I'd rather fly the KDF counterpart over the Fed myself anyway.

BTW, I'm ready (and willingly) open to a PVP match anytime.
If I sounded personal, then I apologize.
Please understand that we KDF players tend to get a bit personal in discussions wheather the Fed. should get that last bits of uniqueness to our faction. Between the lack of content, the lockbox giveaway of the KDF unique consoles and the last announcement that mr.Stahl made that there will be no new Z-Store KDF ships in the forseable future we tend to get a little touchy.
Again, to sound insulting was not my intention, and if I did you have my apology.

P.S. I'd rather fly the KDF counterpart as well....but then I'd rather fly most of KDF ships And mind me, not stat-wise, but rather design wise.
However I really really like the Ambassador as well and will be getting one probably before the K'maj, I was one of 'those' that bugged Cryptic for a sci-oriented cruiser for a while now and I must admit they made it to fit my playstyle.
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# 57
02-13-2013, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by paragon92518 View Post
In what dimension, in what galaxy, on what planet, by which language could you actually believe what I said was not true. (The most recent example...) The 2 newest ships coming into STO are the Fleet Kamarag and Fleet Ambassador.

Breaking down what each one has over the other....

Fleet Kamarag Battle Cruiser

Can Equip Cannons
Extra Universal Consoles
Base Turn Rate: 10.5 degrees per second
Cloaking Device
+10 Weapon Power, +10 Engine Power

VS.

Ambassador Fleet Support Cruiser Retrofit

+4,950 hull
+1 Device Slot
+5 to All Subsystem Power


So..what would YOU rather have?

+10 Weapons, a +3.5 base turn increase, (1) EXTRA Universal Console, along with the ability to equip Cannons


Or.....

+4,950 hull, +1 device slot, and a +5 to subsystems.


And this is just recent ships. It's a repeated pattern in STO. If these 2 ships met in combat, I give the Ambassador a minute, possibly 2, before she goes up in flames.

Would you like to trade ship statistics for the Ambassador and Kamarag? I didn't think so!


Thanks for the entertainment!...Hey, I'll trade you a $50 bill for a $100.
Im still laughing. You based your arguement on the two most recent ships, a cruiser versus a battle cruiser, when everyone knows the fleet Battle Cruisers are better on average than the fleet fed cruisers.

Care to talk about who has the best Escort class vessels or the best science vessels? Care to show me how the fleet Qin or Somraw is superior to the Fleet Defiant?

This is why I laugh. You claim that the KDF has better ships and its just not true. We do have some that are better and we have some that are not. Just as the feds do.

Btw, your $50 is a fake. Why would I trade a benjamin for it?
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# 58
02-13-2013, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
Im still laughing. You based your arguement on the two most recent ships, a cruiser versus a battle cruiser, when everyone knows the fleet Battle Cruisers are better on average than the fleet fed cruisers.

Care to talk about who has the best Escort class vessels or the best science vessels? Care to show me how the fleet Qin or Somraw is superior to the Fleet Defiant?

This is why I laugh. You claim that the KDF has better ships and its just not true. We do have some that are better and we have some that are not. Just as the feds do.

Btw, your $50 is a fake. Why would I trade a benjamin for it?
ROFL... Yeah atleast the KDF battle cruisers can still compete in a DPS race from what this game has turned into. All these noobs saying stuff like my all knowing DPS calculator knows more than your 2+ years of experience. By the time I ever log back into STO I bet the fed side will have battle cloaks on every fed ship though. The connection problems I've gone through today just makes me hate this game even more. They must have put those fed loving hamsters in charge... very horrible game.
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# 59
02-13-2013, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
Im still laughing. You based your arguement on the two most recent ships, a cruiser versus a battle cruiser, when everyone knows the fleet Battle Cruisers are better on average than the fleet fed cruisers.

Care to talk about who has the best Escort class vessels or the best science vessels? Care to show me how the fleet Qin or Somraw is superior to the Fleet Defiant?

This is why I laugh. You claim that the KDF has better ships and its just not true. We do have some that are better and we have some that are not. Just as the feds do.

Btw, your $50 is a fake. Why would I trade a benjamin for it?
But..I thought this is DPS Online...whoops, I mean Star Trek Online
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# 60
02-13-2013, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tancrediiv View Post
No one ever HAS to give up anything to get something. That battle cry is for PvPrs who just haz to have a perfect and fair homogenous play experience.
If you want a Fleet defiant with battle cloak then you're going to have to sacrifice some hull and a bridge officer station to bring it closer to BoP standard. Eg. Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit has 5 BOFF stations, one more than a Fleet Hoh'Sus. It also has 8250 more hull compared to the Hoh'Sus.

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Originally Posted by tancrediiv View Post
This is a game with lots of players. Depriving one side for the sake of another is never welcome. It's just as stupid to expect as all the 'nerf escorts/buff cruisers' pages that serve to take away something someone has paid real money for so someone else can win were they couldn't before.
"Depriving one side for the sake of another is never welcome." Is KDF content on par with Federation content? KDF is deprived of content, that is why we get the cooler toys. I have spent money on my KDF characters, I paid good money for unlocks and consoles. The GIVE FEDS CLOAK WAAA WAAA WAAA threads are worse than nerf escort/buff cruiser threads... the cloak topic is a plague in these forums.

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The argument of the Feds don't fight that way is equally stupid. It's like saying one side can't develope a rifle because the other side has it and doesn't want you to. No one would tolerate something so silly. What that nation WOULD say is go pack sand, stop you aggression or we will definitely make the weapon system you don't want us to have.
Some of us are fans of the series and would like to see a Star Trek game where the IP has not been taken to a viking **** party. Canon is good. Feds dont fight, they have little tea parties and hug, even in a time of war...

Here are some federation options for cloaking. Although these might not be as good a battle cloak they are still sufficient cloaking abilities
- Cloaking Device (Gal-X, Defiant-R).
- Mask Energy Signature.
- Adapted MACO 3 part ability.
- Romulan T5 Ability.

If you're still not happy with those options, play as a KDF toon or GTFO.
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