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# 21
02-13-2013, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by vegeta50024 View Post
Last time I checked, the season 6 fleet actions do reward fleet marks. There are also the older ones that randomly have a daily that rewards fleet marks.
Yes. In the PVE queue there are missions marked as having a Fleet Mark reward. Federation Fleet Alert is 1. The dailies you refer to are the missions in the PVE queue that awards Dilithium/Gear. The daily mission is to complete a specific one of these missions, such as Big Dig or Gorn Minefield, and the daily rewards 50 fleet marks and 960 dilithium (on top of the dilithium you earn for completing the mission). The problem is that some of these dailies are not showing up at all for a while. I believe each is in some sort of rotation where one of the dailies is offered for a few days and then it switches to another. Example: The Big Dig daily can be offered for a week at a time before finally switching to Gorn Minefield. And I can't remember the last time the daily was for Braking the Planet ground mission (even when the daily is offered it seems like nobody does it anyway).

The daily mission for these in your Available tab of your mission window can be completed, of course, once per day. But the missions themselves can be completed as many times as you want for the regular rewards, granted each one you complete will have a 30 minute cooldown before you can do that one again.

Another thing I noticed is that, nobody seems to do any of the dilithium/gear missions in the PVE queue except for the one that has a daily being offered for it. Example: If the daily is for The Big Dig, nobody seems to be doing Gorn Minefield. The 1 exception is Starbase 24 which people seem to prefer, and I don't recall ever seeing a daily for that mission.
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# 22
02-13-2013, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by buayafederasi View Post
true.
"breaking the planet", "the big dig", "gorn minefield", "klingon scout force", "starbase 24" all labelled fleet action but none giving fleet mark. only 1 big dig daily gives it, and it can be taken once a day.
at least make all fleet actions giving fleet mark so they can be entitled "fleet action".
The problem with that is: you don't need to be IN a fleet to do those missions. So, in my opinion, they aren't even fleet actions because they are labeled as rewarding Dilithium/Gear, not fleet marks.

I noticed on a couple new characters at around level 10, the only thing I had available in the PVE Queue was Starbase 24. After joining a fleet with each character, the missions marked as having a reward of Fleet marks, such as Federation Fleet Alert, Starbase Fleet Defense, became available because those you have to actually be in a fleet for.
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# 23
02-13-2013, 10:31 PM
Sorry. 1 last post for now. I promise.

Not sure if it matters now buuuuuut............the launcher is showing that the shard will be going down for maintenance on February 13th from 7-9 am.
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# 24
02-13-2013, 10:36 PM
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  • The Foundry daily missions have been replaced.
    • The existing daily missions have been removed.
    • Now, all qualifying Foundry missions will automatically reward a scaling amount of Dilithium and skill points/expertise.
No Nerf without a compensation!
  • Reduced costs on Fleet-Starbase- and Embassy-Projects:
    • Lowered Dilithium- and Fleetmarks-Costs to 10% of the current for all Projects
    • Lowered Doff-Costs to 50% of the current for all Projects
This would be fair!
First one half of the so called Community complains: "Give us instant access to all veteran rewards, for going lifetime.", then the other half of the same Community complains: "I've earned 1000 Day membership, I want a special reward.".
Stop complaining, if it is enough for you, you could have the "Captains Table" for the real veterans, I don't want access to another dead social zone...
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# 25
02-13-2013, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by djconcentus View Post
Calling it now, the Foundry mission change is going to send fleet progression rate hurtling downwards at an absurd rate. Especially when you factor in the absurd flark costs for some of the higher-tier upgrades, it puts them basically out of reach of any small or not overly active fleet. Its not fair to the people who want the T4 and T5 fleet ships.
Agreed. My fleet is a small family fleet with 10 or so members. Five of those that are really active. We don't anticipate ever making tier 5 and maybe not tier 4 even though we dump marks and equipment in daily. We've slowed way down but haven't quite given up.

STO gives big fleets a huge advantage over those who chose to stick with small fleets. It also draws people away from the small fleets.
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# 26
02-13-2013, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jake81499 View Post
Agreed. My fleet is a small family fleet with 10 or so members. Five of those that are really active. We don't anticipate ever making tier 5 and maybe not tier 4 even though we dump marks and equipment in daily. We've slowed way down but haven't quite given up.

STO gives big fleets a huge advantage over those who chose to stick with small fleets. It also draws people away from the small fleets.

So true we get members leaving just to get the T-4 and up gear So with that said..

TY for killing smaller Family Freindly Fleets but that is what it is about i guess suport those that Pay to Win
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# 27 Not GOOD
02-13-2013, 11:11 PM
Well done...

Removed the FM' award from the foundry....

Made the dil to Scale - whats the point of doing this? In order to get the dil the missions have to be long enough - so is that gone now? I can get a certain amount of dil for ALL missions since they now scale? - EXPLAIN please

Now that Fleet Marks are now GONE from the foundry - can you INCREASE the amount of marks we get from doing Fleet alert etc? for 15 mins we get only 15-18 marks... on the other hand a 15min STF gives us over 60 marks... 75 with the optional.

Why cant STF's also give fleet marks? Why cant they be balanced?

The only way I will get my fleet marks is through the commendation system...

This will slow down my already small fleet.

Why cant the projects also SCALE to the size of the fleet - you managed to scale them for everything else now it seems...

Instead of tweaking the rewards all the time, why not fix the place we USE them for...

NOT HAPPY.
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# 28
02-13-2013, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by munchee View Post
So true we get members leaving just to get the T-4 and up gear So with that said..

TY for killing smaller Family Freindly Fleets but that is what it is about i guess suport those that Pay to Win
Totally agree with you... this is just pissing me off
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# 29
02-13-2013, 11:15 PM
Yeah not having that 15 min repeatable foundry mission give any fleet marks is going to kill my fleets FM production.

I'm in a smallish fleet and I seem to be possibly the only one actively trying to grind FMs. That investigate officer reports is the sole way I was getting them recently. Decent 50FM payout (60 with boost) and reliable, not wishy washy between 5 and 25 marks as most other ways of getting FMs are.

Omega marks I can get 60-100+ at a time. Rom marks with epohhs can be had 400 every 8-10 days with little effort. But Fleet marks, at only ~25 odd each mission are like pulling teeth trying to get the thousands required for the fleet base.

Was bearable with Investigate reports. After patch, I'd have to give up doing anything fun I actually want to do in game just to constantly play fleet events that unreliably payout half as much less often if I wanted to keep up the same daily FM production.

Devs, FM payouts need boosting on fleet events.
Also I want to see a FM booster that does 50% FM boosts (current booster is only 20%).
Being in a small fleet I contribute lots to projects, as such I've >600k fleet creds and nothing to spend it on.
Even a booster costing 250k FC for 100% FM boost (and double the FM boost amount it lasts for) would be great.
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# 30
02-13-2013, 11:22 PM
Bad
- Flarks are gone from IOR.
- Fleet progress will stagnate, more with our KDF fleet.

Good
- STF Doffs are back.
- The rest of the Romulan weapon types are in the store.
- Improved the Fleet ships (especially my Fleet Norgh).
- I don't have to bother with the Foundry anymore.


Give me more Fleet Marks (minimum double the rewards), and while at it increase the Romulan Mark rewards (and remove the cap from Azure Nebula).
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