A true remake of KoTOR 2? Puh-lease, the gaming gods aren't that kind.

As for TOR, I can't imagine having anything to do with it any time soon. The F2P set up is crap, and the art style makes my eyes bleed.

That depends on who get's to the thread first. A lot of mods are no fun here, but some Devs have senses of humor.

*Awaits Mod Zombie Hunter intervention.*

STO is much better

and will be

and it is doing great. Nuff said

Actually, its not. STO is a fun game, but its not as well made as SWTOR. It doesn't have as much content as SWTOR, discounting user made content.

I know die hard trekkies won't like to hear that (at least the ones that feel some sort of rivalry with Star Wars) and its at its heart, a matter of opinion.

Yeah, Tumerboy (now known as tacofangs) and Brandon are pretty good at it.

I'm still trying to figure out that thing where 4 devs said the same thing with no intervening posts.

TOR's art feels a bit wrong at times - there's not a lot of stuff that I feel comfortable wearing in any specific class (Drelliad Jacket and Classic Conservator's Robe are good for smuggler and the Jedi classes respectively, but...), and I don't like ANY of their weapons.

But yeah, the F2P models aside, TOR is much better than STO in almost every respect. Now if only you could choose your flight path in space combat... or, you know, have access to something vaguely resembling the tailor... (or even the Foundry! )

Edit: There's just ONE thing I can think of that I like about TOR's F2P model: you can buy almost EVERY subscription perk with credits. Emphasis on "almost", as a credit cap isn't among those things.

Re-edit: Well, okay, and the fact that you're not spammed with lockboxes everywhere. Then again, the problem is probably in the fact that TOR is far more subtle - it's just as bad in its own way. <.<

Obsidian's honcho just pitched a new Star Wars RPG to Lucas/Disney if I'm not mistaken...

I'm cringing already.

I left TOR for this game simply due to the massive lack of end game content in it, STO has way more stuff to do at end lvl.

Yeah SWTOR gets repetitive a little quicker then STO. Oh lets not forget that space combat in SWTOR is nothing more then a poorly implemented mini-game. Still play though

I joined TOR when the released their Trial Account program. I was thoroughly enjoying the game. In fact, I was spending more time over there then here. It was more out of TOR being new then anything with STO....a change of pace if you will. I came back to STO with S6 to check out the new stuff. I liked Nukara. I went back to TOR after their F2P model went live once and have not been back since. Why? As a free player, I lost 2/3 of my crafting skills, most of my inventory space, and the titles I earned in game. It was bad enough that I did not have access to mail or a bank before hand. I may go back to dabble a little more but, their F2P model is too restrictive......and people are complaining about STO monetizing things.

So from what I have experienced

F2P: STO > TOR
Customization: STO > TOR
Space Combat: STO > TOR
Ground Combat: TOR > STO
Story Content: TOR > STO
End Game: ? (Did not get any where near there)
Microtransactions: STO > TOR (You can get anything from the C-Store through in game means. Cartel Market is real life money only)

In the end, I will definitely be sticking to STO for the foreseeable future and beyond.

I just wonder why this thread seems to be immune to the forum rules and policies, what is the secret and how do we apply this immunity to our more important threads please?