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# 21
02-16-2013, 08:01 AM
Lobi:

I understand the need to keep lobi character bound, but why not make it so everything purchased with lobi is received in a tradable crate that a player can trade to another character or put on the exchange. For Example if a player wants a MKXII Jem?Hadar set they trade their MKXI set + lobi for a tradable crate with the entire MKXII set in it and then the player can do with it what they want. Most of the more valuable items in the lobi store are already like this. Maybe just have things bind on equip after upgrading instead of pick up or account bound, but bound to character on equip. There are reasonable ways around the lobi problem, but maybe I am missing something with the lobi.

Kitbash ships:

It is a shame they have no interest in doing a New Orleans Class. I think it is actually a proper looking Federation ship and much better looking than many of the early cryptic variants. The Springfield is not bad, but no worse than the Cheyenne class already in game. Regardless of who might like the look of a ship few people will use a ship that does not have a good BO setup.

The Constellation Class (!A KITBASH!) would be great, but like the Oberth, Miranda, and Constitution would end up being a T1 z-store ship. I would take a T5 New Orleans over a T1 Constellation. I don't buy T1 ships.
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# 22
02-16-2013, 10:56 AM
I'm happy my question about lobi account bound was answered.

The answer however was very poor.


Basically 'we don't do it because we want to be able to give free lobi in special events and it is too easy to exploit by getting that free lobi with multiple accounts and pooling it together'.


... which is ridiculous because they are severely inconveniencing the ENTIRE playerbase to prevent a few people with dozens of characters each (apparently since this is such an exploitable threat!) from accumulating lobi.

Mr Rivera:

The problem..and what PISSES people off about the lobi system is that:

1- Lobi can only be acquired by opening lockboxes. Keys cost money.
2- Lobi items are bind on pickup. If one of my characters has lobi and I need lobi item for another character I cannot purchase the item and transfer it.
3- Opening lobi with one character means other characters are locked out of lobi items. If you open lockboxes with multiple characters then you end up being SCAMMED out of money-costing keys and not being able to use their lobi.

To fix this:

1- Make lobi account bound. God, make it a currency not an inventory item.
2- Make lobi items come in an account-bound crate. No more bind on pickup.
3- If you guys want to give free lobi in events and not have it be exploited then you simply TIME GATE IT. Make the missions that give free lobi not give lobi outright but rather a one-per character unique item that is used in a doff mission. The doff mission will turn into lobi. The doff mission takes 24 hours to complete. That way only X amount of lobi can be made per character in account per day. THAT is easy enough to math out...you already did this with the reputation system.

... a little work for once-a-year free lobi event is too much to ask to not piss off the playerbase the rest of the year? C'mon now.
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Captain
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# 24
02-16-2013, 11:17 AM
Comments on other items mentioned in interview:


AI:

The AI you guys have is good enough. The problem is that for some reason the AI is being scripted to act stupid.

For example, pit a mirror event terran empire battleship against a borg cube from STF's.

just compare what they do. The mirror ship will actively heal, use various attacks, tractors, etc. The borg cube will just take damage stupidly and barely tractor/use abilities/heal.

Mirror ships heal each other. Borg just ignore each other.


So...whatever it is that makes the Mirror ship AI be so good PUT IT in all the AI in the game.
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# 25
02-16-2013, 11:33 AM
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Link doesn't work.

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That's neat, though it doesn't really look like a Starfleet design.

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WANT. Get rid of that ShiKahr class and replace it with this.

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That looks a lot like a Patrol Escort.
"It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid."
-- Q

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# 26
02-16-2013, 11:46 AM
#### First Officer System / ALT your BOff ####

we need to talk about that "ALT your BOff" thing...

i HAVE a Breen Ship (limited time only), i have a Breen BOff
i HAVE 3 Jem'Hadar Ships (all expensive LockBox Ships), all 3 on 1 Character [i play that Alien as Jem'Hadar already, i just need the proper visuals and Ketracel White addiction now ;P ], i have a Jem'Hadar BOff too, the Jem'Hadar ground Set + new Lobi Gun (bound to char) and Jem'Hadar DOffs (some bound to char)....

i want, no i NEED those BOffs to be Captain of the Ships i already have ...
i guess i need also, in addition an option to promote a BOff to Captain and REPLACE the current Captain i am using right now on this Character Slot instead of a new one,
maybe just simply replace the Captain, maybe move the Captain to the new Character Slot instead.... or demote him to be the BOff instead? (withe 10 Characters i have really enough alts and i already play half of them as the Aliens that the BOffs are supposed to be)...


...not to mention i still need a Tholian Captain for the Tholian Ships, i need a true Cardassian Captain for the Galor. (no BOff's available here yet).

proof of claims -> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a...STO2013-01.png


one could say, you guys waited to long with implementing the Alt your BOff system,
if it had been available before the first LockBox Ship, that would have been perfect.
But now we got all the crazy Alien Ships and extra LobiStore items already, most of it is bound on our current chars, so now we need to Alt our BOffs, but on the same character slot now.

Because what good does me a Breen Captain when he is a complete new Character without the time limited time ship that i wanted for him?
I am not going to buy another set of Jem'Hadar Ships just to have the Captain look a bit more like a Jem'Hadar than my alien creator fake Jem'Hadar looks like... (and i know there are many fake Alien creator Jem'Hadars walking around in Starfleet and the KDF).


i could see that first officer take ONE ship with him by default to the new account, but 3? and maybe a Shuttle?
including slotted items, but then what about all the Bound DOffs and Items... that would get real complicated real fast (or you just change a lot of stuff to Account Bound instead of Character Bound, retroactively...)


well... think about it.


maybe in the end the easiest thing to do would just be to put the Species in the C-Store after all and add a Re-Species token to the planned Re-Trait Token that is confirmed for uuuh not-Season-8-but-bigger-may-update....
...maybe in addition just allow us to buy these rare Species as Option if we own the appropriate Ship, so we don't have so many rare Aliens running around..... or just unlock the Species otion through the Alt Your BOff thing for the current character slot for the use of a re-species token.


....i hope you could follow my line of thought here lol

Last edited by zerobang; 02-16-2013 at 11:56 AM.
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# 27
02-16-2013, 12:56 PM
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Could even go so far as to disassemble drops to get parts and moddifiers as well.
Indeed, or a combination of disessembling and assembling with various components to get a high ranking item.

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### Chimera Fleet Ship ###

NO!
just NO!
that would be BAD!
It was bad enough that you gave the ship to everyone who just bought a Life Time Account, instead of making them wait the 1000 days (that ship surely sold some LTAs), but giving a Fleet Version out for $20... that would not only make LTA's very angry that would also devalue your LTA offer immensely.
Indeed, unless the Dev Team creates an upgrade slot or upgrade program that requires you to own that ship in order to get a better one.
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# 28
02-16-2013, 01:40 PM
New Orleans class please... I like that ship. Better than the Challenger or the 3 nacelle Ambassador USS Princeton. And I want a cruiser escort that's from the late 2360s.

I want to see crafting not become a variant of the reputation system. I hated the grind for that.

His comment about the Senior Staff system sounds interesting... maybe get new passive powers when you have BOFFs who become Chief Medical Officer, Chief Engineer, Helmsman, etc... and have an active power when you get your First Officer. (Wait that does sound like a variant of the reputation system)

I wonder why not add computer cores along with warp cores and ship hull armor. I think it would be easier to leave armor as engineering consoles and just slot computer cores and warp cores. How the warp and computer cores are designed might improve multiple systems and you can have 5 set space items (Adapted MACO space sets with shields, engines, shields, warp core, and computer core)

I find having a dog follow me around ESD a bit disturbing btw... unless its a Mini Schnauzer because I miss mine after he died.
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# 29
02-16-2013, 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zerobang View Post
#### First Officer System / ALT your BOff ####

we need to talk about that "ALT your BOff" thing...

i HAVE a Breen Ship (limited time only), i have a Breen BOff
i HAVE 3 Jem'Hadar Ships (all expensive LockBox Ships), all 3 on 1 Character [i play that Alien as Jem'Hadar already, i just need the proper visuals and Ketracel White addiction now ;P ], i have a Jem'Hadar BOff too, the Jem'Hadar ground Set + new Lobi Gun (bound to char) and Jem'Hadar DOffs (some bound to char)....

i want, no i NEED those BOffs to be Captain of the Ships i already have ...
i guess i need also, in addition an option to promote a BOff to Captain and REPLACE the current Captain i am using right now on this Character Slot instead of a new one,
maybe just simply replace the Captain, maybe move the Captain to the new Character Slot instead.... or demote him to be the BOff instead? (withe 10 Characters i have really enough alts and i already play half of them as the Aliens that the BOffs are supposed to be)...


...not to mention i still need a Tholian Captain for the Tholian Ships, i need a true Cardassian Captain for the Galor. (no BOff's available here yet).

proof of claims -> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a...STO2013-01.png


one could say, you guys waited to long with implementing the Alt your BOff system,
if it had been available before the first LockBox Ship, that would have been perfect.
But now we got all the crazy Alien Ships and extra LobiStore items already, most of it is bound on our current chars, so now we need to Alt our BOffs, but on the same character slot now.

Because what good does me a Breen Captain when he is a complete new Character without the time limited time ship that i wanted for him?
I am not going to buy another set of Jem'Hadar Ships just to have the Captain look a bit more like a Jem'Hadar than my alien creator fake Jem'Hadar looks like... (and i know there are many fake Alien creator Jem'Hadars walking around in Starfleet and the KDF).


i could see that first officer take ONE ship with him by default to the new account, but 3? and maybe a Shuttle?
including slotted items, but then what about all the Bound DOffs and Items... that would get real complicated real fast (or you just change a lot of stuff to Account Bound instead of Character Bound, retroactively...)


well... think about it.


maybe in the end the easiest thing to do would just be to put the Species in the C-Store after all and add a Re-Species token to the planned Re-Trait Token that is confirmed for uuuh not-Season-8-but-bigger-may-update....
...maybe in addition just allow us to buy these rare Species as Option if we own the appropriate Ship, so we don't have so many rare Aliens running around..... or just unlock the Species otion through the Alt Your BOff thing for the current character slot for the use of a re-species token.


....i hope you could follow my line of thought here lol

Your ships look great, especially the first and third Fed Ships. What design elements did you use?
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# 30
02-16-2013, 02:30 PM
I'll gladly add my vote in for a new Orleans too , looks really nice , and cant see a reason why the Cheyenne is in game and this isn't.

maybe stick it in the escort line instead of the cruiser though
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