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# 51
02-18-2013, 06:49 AM
This is going to totally contradict what I just said, but you will never catch me behind the Patrol Escort. Mirror Patrol Escort yes, because helloooo Prometheus?

But like Mal said, the Patrol Escort is not a ship I love when I take it in the air. It'll shake me off as quick as the turning of the worlds. (I also ad the Ambassador-class to it)

Personally, I stick to canon ships. Ships I know. Galaxy-class, Defiant, Prometheus, Intrepid, Sovereign, B'rel, Vor'Cha, Negh'Var... those are ships I can just put my hand on the deckplate and it'll tell me what it wants, what it needs...
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# 52
02-18-2013, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085
P.S. It was stated earlier that RA ships with mk X white weapons could complete STFs and opts. It's true. They can. But it's not as efficient and is being a burden on your team-mates.
Actually, due to the number of incompetent Normal STF PUGs, a properly set up RALH ship with white equipment can outperfomr the regular ships.

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Commander
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# 53
02-18-2013, 09:42 AM
If a ship can do the job you need it to do, it isn't obsolete. This is especially true if it is more efficient than another ship that seems to be better.

Most of the ships people are claiming to be obsolete are being compared to ships that are not in the same frame of reference. A Z-store ship making a normal ship obsolete is simply Z-store owners wanting to justifiy their purchases, while claiming a Z-store ship that costs less than another Z-store ship is obsolete because of the more expensive ship is also simply people trying to play down ships other than what they have decided to own. And to claim a general-availablity ship is made obsolete by a ship only available through special deals or expired offers is somewhat misleading, as obtaining these 'ships that replaced x' may not be possible (therefore making the idea they replaced anything false).

To truely make a ship obsolete, the two ships must be the same source type (regular, Z-store, Fleet), and have the same price range/requirements to fly. Comparing an Exploration-Retro to an Odyssey is inaccurate, as one costs 5000 Z points less, so it is expected the lower cost ship would perform below the more expensive one.

Ultimately, each person decides for themselves which ship in their own inventories are obsolete to them. I fly a Galaxy-Retro, but I think I could match an Odyssey-Ops in almost any mission I do, so to me the ship is not obsolete. Another person whose focus is only on PVP might consider the same ship obsolete because it doesn't offer four Tactical console and BOFF slots, but that doesn't make it so for anyone else. I'll be happy to demonstrate just how well my 'obsolete Galaxy-R' heals other ships compared to any other ship in the game, if it comes to it.

My own two cents.

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Rihannsu
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# 54
02-18-2013, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
P.S. It was stated earlier that RA ships with mk X white weapons could complete STFs and opts. It's true. They can. But it's not as efficient and is being a burden on your team-mates.
An entire team in RA ships with mk X white weapons could easily complete all of the STFs and Opts on normal if they knew how to work together. STFs are just part of the gear grind.
Career Officer
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# 55
02-18-2013, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zarathos1978 View Post
Actually, not. Face it: with all the talk about how the player and skill win we all see the videos and read discussions: those who need to win are spending either lot of time or lot of money (or both) on few pixels that give the a little more wagh in a free game.

You (read: OPvP players) can play totaly for free without any sort of investement (money and/or time). And if you are that good as you claim you are, you won't have anything to fear from those PUGers who would fly P2W ships. After all - skill matters.

Yet in the end, after all the moaning, cursing, calling OP on most new ships/consoles that come out we can all see you flying those ships and using those consoles. Why? Because you NEED to win at all price. You are that desperate to win. You are just like those guys who will spend thousands on lockbox ship just to do an ESTF a second faster.

It's your time and your money. But do not be suprised if people find it a little pathetic.
your kind of arrogant arn't you. Has it crossed your mind with the lockbox and lobi ships that maybe we like them for more than the awesome consoles or what have you? I love my Wells class and I love my Mobius, and not for any factor you can appreciate Id imagine. At the same time I also love my Excelscior. You can view things how ever you want, but I've been here for 3 years playing this game, and not once in that time have i heard such a pompus arrogant statement as yours. You enjoy your F2P but remember you wouldn't have F2P without what you call pathetic people that spend money for a few pixels. You owe everyone who ever bought a sub or an item of the C-Store.
Commander
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# 56
02-18-2013, 01:49 PM
I was here pre F2P, payed subscription. Even after F2P I was paying until Cryptic started to screw with game. I even bought two ships to check how much of an advantage C-Store ship has over free T4 one. So yeah, I spent my share of buck on STO.

And I do not have anything againt people buying things - it's their money and they could burn it in fireplace for all I care. But I have anything against people that do this and try to boost their ego by bragging how anyone who does not have "the best" is not "proffesional enough" and "STO barbie player" (whatever that means). So I just try to piss them off. Feeding this little troll living in me.
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# 57
02-18-2013, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zarathos1978 View Post
I was here pre F2P, payed subscription. Even after F2P I was paying until Cryptic started to screw with game. I even bought two ships to check how much of an advantage C-Store ship has over free T4 one. So yeah, I spent my share of buck on STO.

And I do not have anything againt people buying things - it's their money and they could burn it in fireplace for all I care. But I have anything against people that do this and try to boost their ego by bragging how anyone who does not have "the best" is not "proffesional enough" and "STO barbie player" (whatever that means). So I just try to piss them off. Feeding this little troll living in me.
well it comes off as rude to those of us that arn't elietest's that simply enjoy what the store's both C-store and Lobi have to offer.
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