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# 11
02-19-2013, 10:11 AM
Absolute agreement.


Because players can play either faction the only real info they can check is number of player characters at the level cap. KDF makes up a bit more then 18% now.. of course thats is some where between 300 to 500 THOUSAND players that primarily play KDF..
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# 12
02-19-2013, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by oldkhemaraa View Post
Absolute agreement.


Because players can play either faction the only real info they can check is number of player characters at the level cap. KDF makes up a bit more then 18% now.. of course thats is some where between 300 to 500 THOUSAND players that primarily play KDF..
And even if only 10,000 of those had subs (LOL), that equals $ 140,000 a month in revenue (just for the subs), from a faction that does not warrant development resources because of demographics LMAO.

Even with such a conservative estimate, one only needs to imagine the real revenue of funds these accounts have been pumping into the game. Funds which have being used to fund Fed development. There sure has been an emphasis of great Fed development, soon after the announcement the KDF was off the priority list?

Coincidence? I think not. Should I just sit and swallow it - yeah. What else can I do, right?

IMO its little different to the logic of the "small fleet vs. big fleet" argument. "If you are a big fleet, you will enjoy the reputation system, because it was designed for large fleets. Our statistics rationalized the fact that small fleets just didn't fit into the reputation system. Sadly if you are a small fleet, yes well.. we really feel your pain ... but there's really nothing we can do about it because that's how we build it. So perhaps our message to smaller fleets should really be, 'you don't stand a hope in hell. Just join larger fleets where the investment is... Your investment is not worth it...'"

See where this logic leads? And given this paradigm, how does it apply to the Fed vs. KDF demographics argument.

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# 13
02-20-2013, 06:56 AM
You saw what the devs are giving the feds. Imagine if the KDF got a ship like that and not the federation. They would receive a copy/paste version in a day after the complaints.

KDF however, receives only empty promises.
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# 14
02-20-2013, 07:06 AM
Stfu and make a fed if all you bitches are just gunna whine, srsly.

Fed dont have BoPs, they have escorts, Fed dont have raptors, they have escorts. You got enough fakin ships to play around with, stop whining.

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# 15
02-20-2013, 07:09 AM
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Stfu and make a fed if all you bitches are just gunna whine, srsly.
who let the kids stay home from school?

Grow up.
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# 16
02-20-2013, 07:11 AM
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who let the kids stay home from school?

Grow up.
Good comeback bro. Whats wrong? Cant handle the truth?

You want answers? You want the truth?

You cant handle the truth!

Deal with it.
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# 17
02-20-2013, 07:12 AM
i would pay for a new kdf ship but there dont seem to wont to i have said meny times on forms that there wont get any more money from me untill there bring out some more kdf ships. i think it was in this month ask cryptic that some one said there was a new BOP on the test server befor game went F2P but it not been relesed im more then willing to buy a bundle pack for my kdf toons.
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# 18
02-20-2013, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by joshmaaaaaaans View Post
Good comeback bro. Whats wrong? Cant handle the truth?

You want answers? You want the truth?

You cant handle the truth!

Deal with it.
My point clearly still stands.

grow up.

Nice to see you can actually spell whole words.
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# 19
02-20-2013, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by illcadia View Post
It astounds *me* that you guys don't think Cryptic looks at how many people play KDF regularly, versus how many play fed.

It astounds me that you think it's actually worth the investment in making new KDF C store content that maybe a hundred players, max, will buy in the absolute best case scenario, compared to the thousands of fed players.

Do they make less KDF content? Absolutely. Is it 'astounding'? Not in the slightest. It's just the demographics. If we had anywhere near faction user number parity, you'd be seeing far and above more KDF content being released. But with most KDF fleets being 25 players, and the entire KDF faction numbering significantly less than the FED faction, and of those significantly less players, an even fewer number actually commit to C-store purchases for the KDF... how exactly are they going to make money here?

Everyone goes "If they released stuff in the C store, I'd buy it", but all I ever see are "I'm not buying anything from the C-store until they release more content" threads, so in essence you're saying "Don't produce more content, because I'm not going to buy it. I'll only buy it if you produce it and release it for free and I decide I like it, at which point it's free so why should I have to buy it anyways?"
...and it doesn't hurt that you HAVE TO play Fed-side first, by default
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# 20
02-20-2013, 07:16 AM
Illcadia, whats 12% to 18% of 2 million?
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