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Lt. Commander
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Just another reminder that some players still want the Saucer Seperation on the Dreadnaught. I personally prefer to solve it through the Galaxy retrofit console. I would not even mind the lance being inactive and the ship losing hull points when separated, but the console turn rate buff would be highly appreciated!

Edit: Ooops wrong section. Hope someone can move it to the shipyard section. Sorry...
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# 2
02-14-2013, 01:47 PM
I would also like saucer speration for my defiant...
Career Officer
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# 3
02-14-2013, 01:52 PM
Now that would be "warhead separation," not saucer separation . (DS9: AVATAR Book 1 if Im correct )
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# 4
02-15-2013, 09:55 PM
I want my defiant to be able to transform into a giant robot with big lazer gunz.
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# 5
02-16-2013, 12:45 PM
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I want my defiant to be able to transform into a giant robot with big lazer gunz.
I want my Armitage to transform into a giant maid.

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# 6
02-16-2013, 06:14 PM
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Now that would be "warhead separation," not saucer separation . (DS9: AVATAR Book 1 if Im correct )
It was also in the DS9 Tech Manual.
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# 7
02-19-2013, 09:23 AM
Nebula and Sovereign saucer separation would be nice too.

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# 8
02-19-2013, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 View Post
Nebula and Sovereign saucer separation would be nice too.
Was the Nebula even designed for it? Doesn't seem so to me (and I don't really care what some half-baked author concocted).

And does the Sovereign really need to separate? Saucer separation was totally underwhelming from the viewer perspective. Further, it seems totally unnecessary from within the context of the IP; there are plenty of escorts in service now, and they perform far more effectively than a Galaxy hull section. Meanwhile, the saucer section is a sitting duck; if the Lursas hadn't been blown up already, and the Enterprise was forced to separate before the battle ended to avoid the warp core explosion, then I don't think there's any question that BoP would have wrecked the saucer section.

It seemed like a neat concept the first time they pulled it out; I'm sure it seemed like a great idea from the perspective of what they could do with the physical models. The cruiser turned cruise ship concept seemed to warrant the ability to safely discharge the civilians while sending something more battle capable into the fray. In practice, the show demonstrated just how useful the ability really was; I think they use it all of 2-3 times between TNG and the motion pictures.

I think they would have abandoned the design, at least in regards to cruisers (obviously the multi-vector module is different).

Anyway, there was never any mention that the saucer even could separate on the dreadnaught. For all I know, they had to hardwire power relays to power the cannons, or the cloak, or remove the spare bridge and saucer separation equipment to accommodate the third nacelle, or who knows what else (probably put in more holodecks, is my guess).

I guess what I mean to say is, outside of some (very) minor RP reasons, or just the novelty of using it once or twice, the console doesn't even need to exist, let alone be ported over to the dreadnaught.

Last edited by millimidget; 02-19-2013 at 02:09 PM.
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# 9
02-19-2013, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by millimidget View Post
Was the Nebula even designed for it? Doesn't seem so to me (and I don't really care what some half-baked author concocted).

And does the Sovereign really need to separate? Saucer separation was totally underwhelming from the viewer perspective. Further, it seems totally unnecessary from within the context of the IP; there are plenty of escorts in service now, and they perform far more effectively than a Galaxy hull section. Meanwhile, the saucer section is a sitting duck; if the Lursas hadn't been blown up already, and the Enterprise was forced to separate before the battle ended to avoid the warp core explosion, then I don't think there's any question that BoP would have wrecked the saucer section.

It seemed like a neat concept the first time they pulled it out; I'm sure it seemed like a great idea from the perspective of what they could do with the physical models. The cruiser turned cruise ship concept seemed to warrant the ability to safely discharge the civilians while sending something more battle capable into the fray. In practice, the show demonstrated just how useful the ability really was; I think they use it all of 2-3 times between TNG and the motion pictures.

I think they would have abandoned the design, at least in regards to cruisers (obviously the multi-vector module is different).

Anyway, there was never any mention that the saucer even could separate on the dreadnaught. For all I know, they had to hardwire power relays to power the cannons, or the cloak, or remove the spare bridge and saucer separation equipment to accommodate the third nacelle, or who knows what else (probably put in more holodecks, is my guess).

I guess what I mean to say is, outside of some (very) minor RP reasons, or just the novelty of using it once or twice, the console doesn't even need to exist, let alone be ported over to the dreadnaught.
It was indeed. I have an issue of the Star Trek Communicator, with an Okudagram featuring the Nebula class. It has a battle bridge, separation plane, and even a location for the impulse engines.

And perhaps a brand new console isn't needed; just edit the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit's Saucer Sep console to be able to be slotted into the Dreadnought.

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# 10
02-19-2013, 06:19 PM
I'm still against a saucer separation for the dreadnought. The spinal lance being the primary reason. It directly connects the saucer and neck sections to one another. Plus it draws power directly from the warp core. It's like, literally tied into the core. It makes zero sense for it to separate. But that's just me being nerdy I guess =P

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