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# 31
02-20-2013, 05:33 PM
The Bortasqu' is a pure crap, there's no mystery, if they lost money on it it's because it's a cruiser with very poor stats!

They should take a look at their metrics. Most of the KDF chars i see are tacs. Tacs, and more tacs, everywhere. Most of them flying tac ships (and a lot of carriers too). Maybe it's not "profitable enough" to release cruisers, but escorts should be ok. Because we need that %$^?* 5 tac consoles + cloak raptor, just to make the balance with the horrible glass cannon the fed just got. Or at least a super aggressive Ferasan Carrier with a cool turnrate.
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# 32
02-20-2013, 07:40 PM
Cryptic hamstrung their KDF sales from the beginning. Any subpar revenue from red side is their own fault.
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# 33
02-20-2013, 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by magnumstar View Post
I got the Tor'Kaht a couple days ago and now I fly nothing else. It is truly a nasty machine that can dish out the dmg and take it on the chin as well
I fly the Tor'kaht too in PvE and it performs good. However, where lies the acutal difference between an fed escort and an Tor'kaht in survivability?

Aus2SIF3 vs. Aux2SIF1
And maybe ET.

Of course, you can feel the difference, however, in ESTFs if your team doing too less damage to kill fast enough, you finally also need to speed tank. At last, I cannot outtank an elite cube infenitely long in my Tor'kaht in ESTFs without speed tanking, because the damage without reduction from defense becomes too high to counter purly by healing.

And speed tanking with the Tor'kaht this is just painfull compared to an average escort with a turn rate of 15++.
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# 34
02-20-2013, 09:25 PM
Battlecruiser are tanks with DPS, and should be set up for that. Speed tanking in a battle cruiser..nope, wrong formula...

Either way, topic for a different forum...

SUbject of the topic is no ships to by, when we do have ships to buy but you eed to be in a fleet. We got stuff coming. I'm not worried about cryptic not having another ship for us, though it would be nice.

Maybe they'll come out with a feresian ship pack for us... some sort of attack carrier akin to the Kar-Fi is what I'm hoping for.

*goes back to knitting... knitting chain mail for a new baldric that is*

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# 35
02-20-2013, 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by twam View Post
Oh, I know - I like my sci skills a lot, both the heal/resists and the cc/debuffs.

It was more of a thought experiment - thinking out of the box, like.
Getting a tac layout like that on a battlecruiser with 4 tac consoles, well, it intrigued me.
Yep, gotta run a LT sci BOFF in the universal slot, sci team and hazar emitters for me there.
for LtC TAC its TT,fire at will, and CRF-II in the top slot. running 4 xdisrup Turrets in back, 3 Disr DHC forward with the qual disruptor cannon. I'll eventually load it up with mk XII Disrptor DHC's [Acc] [Dmg]x3 from the fleet store along with turrets to match. I don't bother with torps. I'd rather spend the points on my character build where they'll enhance overall ship survivability.

But then my main is a SCI captain, that does not have a Klingon Science ship availible..((Kdf yes, from the c-store, Klingon no, its an allied ship...unless I want to fly a carrier..and I don't))
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# 36
02-20-2013, 09:49 PM
I love my Tac Bortasqu'.

It's handling qualities are... let's say unique. Okay, let's say it handles like a runaway train.

But once you get lined up on your target (which really isn't that hard to do with judicious use of Aux2Dampeners and Evasive Maneuvers) it hits like a runaway train.
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# 37
02-20-2013, 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by oldkhemaraa View Post

I just parked my fleet K't'inga refit (sniff, what a lovely lovely ship) and picked up the Fleet Tor'Khat battlecruiser (I hate the tor'khat skin...ewww..fortunatly that can be changed) ((note..Tor'Khat availible from a tier 2 ship yard!!!!)) (((fleet Kamarag availible from atier 3 yard)))

so I got my self a 10 console battle cruiser, with a base turn mode of 10, lots and lots of hull points, cloaks, can mount dual cannon, and utterly crap loads of power, and sports Lt. Commander TAC slot, and a Lt universal slot...

So, lets see... its big, manuverable, packs a punch, versitile, has very heavy shielding, and I'm supposed to be worried about some fed in a Kumari varient? I don't even PvP that much and I 'll be able to kill even a well handled one without to much difficulty.

As some one mentioned.. oh so close to a BOP, but.... not quite...nope, not quite.

QFT.. that fl'orcha is a beast!! Once you fly it you'll feel stunted in any other ship.
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