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Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Ok so the Vesta rolled around and now the Andorian escort to the Cstore... and no Klink mirror of either, as with the oddy pack.

Here is the solution Cryptic.

The Bird Of Prey.

Yes the proto typical Klingon vessel.... the ship that DEFINES what it is to be a Klingon warrior. Its versatility coming from modular design... a ship that can be held together by spit and glue if needed.. and keep fighting. The ship that CRYPTIC has been kicking in the teeth for 3 years.

We know Cryptic is very concerned that if they give the Evil Klinks a proper bop the game may end... balance will be destroyed... rivers will boil ect.

Come on we Klinks lived through the ridiculous B'Rel you released. You where scared no doubt that somehow letting a ship with 24k base hull operate properly the game would have died. Well you did in fact correct the mistake eventually. (thanks for that again I guess)... really though when we see the great concern for balance shown with the vesta and now the Kumari it does make all the old school klinkers chuckle. No balance concerns when it involves fed ship design... move along.

Then there was the fleet debacle... Yes that's what I'm calling it... the Norg... one of my new favorite ships... now that you have given it enough hull to only go pop half as often as it did when it had less hull then a cstore shuttle. LOL Klingon balance Ha.
I will also say that many of the fleet bops don't get the fleet vessel console treatment and that is insulting.

Anyway I will stop sounding negative and get to the point... I am going to show you a way to make MONEY for doing very very minimal work... and make customers happy which will in fact make you more Money... see where I'm going here... pay attention now... $$$$ you can make some easy $$$$$.



Hegh'ta Heavy Bird-of-Prey Retrofit - CSTORE 3 Pack
The Klingon High command, in an effort to strengthen the front lines of the empire. Have tasked the Klingon Defense Force with updating the warfare systems on the empires highest surplus of ships and ship components. The results of their efforts is the New and improved Hegh'ta, Haj and QulDun class Bird of Prey designs. Owing to the Bird of Preys highly modular design that has served the Empire in the battle theater for years, the 3 new Bird classes have been rolled out as Refits of outwardly familiar designs. However looks can be deceiving as all 3 of these new Birds of Prey have the latest in Klingon technology. Recent improvements in multiple studies have provided the Empire with 3 highly adaptable base platforms that her warriors can put to great use. The Klingon Defense force has also developed 3 new systems incorporating captured battle technologies that can be tied into the Bird of Preys systems. To compliment the added fire power of the Hegh'ta class Design Klingon Scientists have tied in a captured Dominion Synergy unit adapting it for use with Klingon standard Disruptor weaponry. This unit operates for short periods of time, boosting the strength of the ships disruptor weaponry, however it is prone to over heating and will off line for a predictable amount of time. Klingon scientists have also used captured Federation technology to enhance the sensors of the Haj bird of prey design. This unit when installed in the Haj weapon platform will provide a instant boost to sensor resolution, applying a 10 stack of sensor analysis to a target. Being that the systems are so vastly different they have only been able to achieve this feat for short durations of time of course a wise warrior will make good use of this advantage. With the QulDun class engineers have been able to adapt a small part of the gorn self repair technology that has served the empire well in the Varnus class of science vessel. This additional piece of tech will launch a small contingent of cloaking self repair drones that will follow and repair any external damage the vessel may take in the course of battle. As an added bonus Empire Scientists have been able to enable a system synergy between the adapted units for Commanders deemed worthy enough to be trusted with all 3 adapted systems. By linking all 3 systems the bird of prey is able to engage a AOE field that improves the battle field in the favor of the Empire. This 5k radius field will increase Disruptor dmg passing into it by 10%, it will also enhance sensor systems providing a 10% resistance debuff to enemy vessels as well as improve effected friendly vessels hull repair rate by 100%.

Hegh'ta (Tactical Version BOP refit)
Battle Cloak
Type:Raider
Hull:28,000
Shield 0.9
Crew 100
Turn Rate:22
Impulse Modifier:0.20
Inertia rating:60
Bonus Power:+15 weapons power
Boffs.
Commander / Lt. Commander / Lt / Lt / Ensign
Consoles
4 Tactical
3 Sci
3 Engi
Fore Weapons 4 Hard points
Rear Weapons 3 Hard points
Adapted Dominion Synergy Device

Haj (Science Version BOP refit)
Battle Cloak
Type:Raider
Hull:28,000
Shield 0.9
Crew 100
Turn Rate:22
Impulse Modifier:0.20
Inertia rating:60
Bonus Power:+15 aux power
Boffs.
Commander / Lt. Commander / Lt / Lt / Ensign
Consoles
3 Tactical
4 Sci
3 Engi
Fore Weapons 4 Hard points
Rear Weapons 3 Hard points
Adapted Federation Sensor Unit

QulDun (Engi Version BOP refit)
Battle Cloak
Type:Raider
Hull:28,000
Shield 0.9
Crew 100
Turn Rate:22
Impulse Modifier:0.20
Inertia rating:60
Bonus Power:+10 Engine and Shield power
Boffs.
Commander / Lt. Commander / Lt / Lt / Ensign
Consoles
3 Tactical
3 Sci
4 Engi
Fore Weapons 4 Hard points
Rear Weapons 3 Hard points
Adapted Gorn self repair system


There it is Cryptic... a Kliingon answer to the Kumari AND the Vesta... we don't need mirror klink versions... we need klink ships that are true to the faction... and one of the only classes that fits that bill is the bird of prey... I am hoping that the recent small bump in stats on the norg... is a sign that you understand how badly you have treated the hand down most ICONIC Klingon class of ships in this game.

The Bop DESERVES a ensign slot... another console... and a third rear weapon point.
Sorry but the full uni design is paid for in Hull and shield numbers in spades.

This idea would give you something you could literly WHIP out as I think most of the code exists... the models already exist... and frankly it would sell as well as any of the fed ships you have spent so much more time on.
When the messenger comes to appropriate your profits ... kill the messenger.

Last edited by antoniosalieri; 02-21-2013 at 06:22 AM.
Captain
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 2
02-21-2013, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
-Mega snip-


..Yeah...I think I'll stay silent, grab a six pack of bloodcola and a tub of Orion fried Gacht and watch the fireworks from my cloaked bop...

..Incoming!
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 369
# 3
02-21-2013, 06:38 AM
Yes it is a fair proposition toward kumari spec's and would bring balance between kdf and fed

(It has only 4 tactical consoles but it has more hull and battle cloak.It is ok)

I will buy such a 3 pack when Cryptic decide to make it available.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 4
02-21-2013, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Ok so the Vesta rolled around and now the Andorian escort to the Cstore... and no Klink mirror of either, as with the oddy pack.

Here is the solution Cryptic.

The Bird Of Prey.
My thoughts exactly

Quote:
Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
really though when we see the great concern for balance shown with the vesta and now the Kumari it does make all the old school klinkers chuckle. No balance concerns when it involves fed ship design... move along.

/snip lovely OP ship design

The Bop DESERVES a ensign slot... another console... and a third rear weapon point.
Sorry but the full uni design is paid for in Hull and shield numbers in spades.

This idea would give you something you could literly WHIP out as I think most of the code exists... the models already exist... and frankly it would sell as well as any of the fed ships you have spent so much more time on.
That would be swell, and yes the BoP deserves a bump. However, just as with the Galaxy, making a useful BoP will never happen. The ship is too iconic, so in the long run, no-one would be truly compelled to make further ship purchases. Hence, these ships that everybody wants to fly need to remain weak.

I have very bad predictions about my beloved romulan warbird. But even with the BO layout of the T3 Galaxy, and the hull and shields of the bop. It the one ship i really want to fly.


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Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
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# 5
02-21-2013, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by burstorion View Post
..Yeah...I think I'll stay silent, grab a six pack of bloodcola and a tub of Orion fried Gacht and watch the fireworks from my cloaked bop...

..Incoming!
I don't think its unreasonable.

The Klingon escorts have always been miss handled by cryptic... the raptor was always bad and mostly hated... the naus ships where fun but in the end no exactly fantastic ships... and bottom line they didn't feel Klingon which I believe effected there sales by a large margin.

The klingon escort ships half always been terrible... 1 they are very un klink. I am not even sure what the raptor is... not only is it a pretty meh design in game its ugly... and I would bet sales of items for the fleet versions would reflect that. The naus ships don't get me started they are solid escorts... but they are so very un klink.

The bird of prey is Iconic... and it would sell like all Iconic ships do. For every Fan that is willing to dish out $ for a Hot dog and paper plate iconic fed ship... there is at least one that loves the Industrial Light and magic Bird of Prey so much they will also drop some $. Its to bad the Hegh is so ugly... a classic b'rel model is the real Made for Mr. Nimoy, Mcoy. Still that ship exists end game so I think the Hegh is the likely skin to use.
When the messenger comes to appropriate your profits ... kill the messenger.
Captain
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# 6
02-21-2013, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by havam View Post
My thoughts exactly



That would be swell, and yes the BoP deserves a bump. However, just as with the Galaxy, making a useful BoP will never happen. The ship is too iconic, so in the long run, no-one would be truly compelled to make further ship purchases. Hence, these ships that everybody wants to fly need to remain weak.

I have very bad predictions about my beloved romulan warbird. But even with the BO layout of the T3 Galaxy, and the hull and shields of the bop. It the one ship i really want to fly.


Is it may yet?
Indeed I see your point... if you can uber Enterprise why do you want that fuggly ferengi one... ect.

Of course the best bop models are already used by the fleet versions... The B'rel hands down the best best, and the first bop design. Is already in use. The Norg which looks like an updated B'rel is also used. Leaves the Hegh a Cryptic abomination verison of the bop design... that still looks bop enough to be called one... but again it isn't really The ILM bop is it.

I don't know they can't do up a raptor... no one is ever going to drop $ on a raptor... and with no seeming plan to do much with the Klink faction (for sure if romms really are coming) what harm could it really do to there future sales. Besides we all know Cryptic is all about the quick $.
When the messenger comes to appropriate your profits ... kill the messenger.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,192
# 7
02-21-2013, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by havam View Post
My thoughts exactly



That would be swell, and yes the BoP deserves a bump. However, just as with the Galaxy, making a useful BoP will never happen. The ship is too iconic, so in the long run, no-one would be truly compelled to make further ship purchases. Hence, these ships that everybody wants to fly need to remain weak.

I have very bad predictions about my beloved romulan warbird. But even with the BO layout of the T3 Galaxy, and the hull and shields of the bop. It the one ship i really want to fly.


Is it may yet?
You mean the Romulan Warbird with 2 tac consoles, 5 turn rate, battle cloak and no dual cannons ?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 8
02-21-2013, 07:15 AM
Cryptic if you're listening I will buy this.

It could also come with one of these:

Overcharged Disruptors
The hull damage resistance debuff from these disruptors is twice as effective as standard disruptors.

Hadron Disruptors
These also apply a damage resistance debuff to shields.

You could put purple [Acc][Dmg] on the ship and MK XII with other mods in the dil store. That way you could sell the unlock to people who just want the weapons.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jan 2013
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# 9
02-21-2013, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
You mean the Romulan Warbird with 2 tac consoles, 5 turn rate, battle cloak and no dual cannons ?
I hope that a Romulan faction's vessels would be as sci-focused as Fed ships are Eng-focused and KDF ships are Tac-focused.


I might buy this proposed BoP set. Maybe. I've paid money, not farmed dil, for a number of ships previously, almost all KDF. I dunno, for me it'd be all about trading the 23 turning rate and 80 inertia of the B'Rel Retrofit for the extra rear mount and ensign boff slot, unless the console set was really neat stuff. I'd rather see a super flexible BoP than a BoP with a rear mount and an extra boff slot. More turning, more speed. Maybe a variant that gets shields like a sci ship but hull like a Hoh'Sus.

I'd really like to see some better sci-focused ships for the KDF, but... I think tacs are boring. I just think it sucks that our best sci ship is the CStore Varanus, a KDF equivalent of the Fed's (free) DSSV, discounting the Temporal.

Well, any which way you slice it, there's plenty of room for things to happen.
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# 10
02-21-2013, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
- wall of text -
Just like the Vesta, Kumari and Odyssey lines of ships are the feds archetypical cruiser, science and escort, this 3 ships would *exemplify* the Klingon Art of War. However, it would be more realistic with a turnrate of 17 or 18. Nothing in canon suggests that a bop turns much better than a Defiant .

Nevertheless, you would have my money for that ship pack.
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