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# 31
02-24-2013, 10:18 AM
We never said it's a bad ship. It's a good ship. We just say the console are useless as they are now, and the bundle is not worth it.
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# 32
02-24-2013, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
This isn't a ship, it's a joke.
Exactly, the Bortas'Q is just a lame "but the KDF also have 5-tac-slot ship"
I bet it's faster to build a new BortasQ before your current one does a 360? turn.
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# 33
02-24-2013, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by erei1 View Post
Sci ship are not the strenght of the KDF. Klingon dislike scientists. So yeah, feds will always have better sci ship than KDF. Seems right.
However, KDF have better carriers.
Just compare :
Vo'quv
And MU Vo'quv
with Atrox
Don't forget to include the pets. Also, don't forget 1 of them is free, the other one cost some EC, while the third one need 2500zen.

KDF also have raiders ship, with full universal BOFF slot and battlecloak. I wish I could compare with something the feds have, but I can't, there are no feds raiders.

I agree the KDF have less ships. And they need more. And I agree the KDF need a kumari like ship somewhere in the future. But they still have some awesome ship the feds simply doesn't have. It's only fair to have awesome ship in the feds that KDF doesn't have, and I hope the vesta will always be fed only.
I still consider the atrox better than the Voquv and mirror voquv. I've been flying both ships, and the atrox is just more tanky, which is what such a whale needs. No one needs so many tac consoles on a carrier, this is a nonsense.

Feds also have the best escorts: the fleet defiant, the patrol escort, they have a tactical escort carrier... All of these ships are superior to the KDF Raptors. I don't get why you guys are considering cloak as a fascinating ability. It's not. Battlecloak might be useful but ships having it are so weak they're underperforming in many areas (including DPS, survivability). If cloak was an extraordinary ability why aren't all fed players flying defiants and galaxy x?

The best KDF escort is the fleet qin raptor. The turnrate is pretty low, the boff layout is great but the lack of tactical console slots and the lack of special DPS console make it clearly inferior. This ship also has 4 fore weapons, which was fine until now.

Now the KDF only has good cruisers. And acutally only two unique and good cruisers, the orion maurauder and the fleet vorcha. Considering how much the fed hardcore players are yelling to get everything the other faction has, it's just a matter of time before you get some sort of 5 fore weapons 5 tac console slots and 18 tunrate cruiser with special Mk XVI DHCs and a flight deck cruiser, while the KDF will of course get nothing but meh fleet ships with very little work on their abilities.

Last edited by diogene0; 02-24-2013 at 11:27 AM.
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# 34
02-24-2013, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by erei1 View Post
We never said it's a bad ship. It's a good ship. We just say the console are useless as they are now, and the bundle is not worth it.
So are pretty much all consoles with a 3 min cd. In the end I see it as a good thing. I don't like phasers, so one less reason for me to stick with that damage type. Until my fed fleet reaches t5 engineering in about a gazillion years.
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