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# 301
02-25-2013, 11:07 AM
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Beam Array Tests

Test Graph
looks like when you over caped with EPtW the DPS didn't level off, as i would expect.
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# 302
02-25-2013, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
looks like when you over caped with EPtW the DPS didn't level off, as i would expect.
I think we have to make a slight clarification/distinction.

For me the graph does show that the increased power from EPTW resulting in more damage. But that there is not an additional damage from power "beyond" 125. There appears to be a hard cap at 125 but a virtual power level sustaining the power when it drops below 125. This can be seen when lower number of beams are used and there is virtually no damage difference between EPTW I and II.

We do see this sustaining power playing a roll when we reach 6 or more beams, with the divergence in the lines. If there was damage benefit beyond 125 power then we would expect some of this divergence to occur at lower number of beams as well.

Therefore 5 and less beams do not benefit differently between EPTW I and II, because of the hard cap at 125. Virtual power levels do sustain power drops below 125 in case of 6 or more beams.

One thing that isn't clear is that we do see a jump in DPS from FAW II cycle with 2 beams versus FAW II cycle with 2 beams and EPTW I cycle. What is tough to distinguish here is if the 5 second increase energy damage from EPTW I is providing that difference or if the hard cap is slightly above 125. I would have to do some extra number crunching to determine this. I believe someone has demonstrated before that the hard cap might be 135.

If anyone sees more information it would be great to gather some more insight.

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# 303 "5 fore weapon slots?!"
02-25-2013, 12:51 PM
This is the email i recieved from Cryptic today.

at least i know they find it as rediculous as i do.

and no im not buying your ship , i play klingon and i pvp. release a bop xperimental 3 pack or something similar to the ships youve been churning out for the carebears. till than, no money.

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# 304
02-25-2013, 12:52 PM
Okay. One would thing this post could of gone into one of the other threads about the Andorian escort?
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# 305
02-25-2013, 12:54 PM
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Okay. One would thing this post could of gone into one of the other threads about the Andorian escort?
no, the andy and its abilities only mean anything in pvp, in an stf who cares how much dps you do?

the ships cryptic churns out fed only on a regular basis bacicly only effects the pvp community and its balance. so it should ALL be here

this is basicly a joke/did you have the same reaction to the email thread to those in the pvp community

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# 306
02-25-2013, 01:01 PM
Well, I'm just saying this has been and is being discussed quite a bit on other similar threads. You should check them out. Forums>Federation Shipyards. They're easy to spot.
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# 307
02-25-2013, 01:03 PM
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in an stf who cares how much dps you do?
Everyone else on your team?
They care if you do piddly DPS and they have to carry you.

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# 308
02-25-2013, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pug02 View Post
I think we have to make a slight clarification/distinction.

For me the graph does show that the increased power from EPTW resulting in more damage. But that there is not an additional damage from power "beyond" 125. There appears to be a hard cap at 125 but a virtual power level sustaining the power when it drops below 125. This can be seen when lower number of beams are used and there is virtually no damage difference between EPTW I and II.

We do see this sustaining power playing a roll when we reach 6 or more beams, with the divergence in the lines. If there was damage benefit beyond 125 power then we would expect some of this divergence to occur at lower number of beams as well.

Therefore 5 and less beams do not benefit differently between EPTW I and II, because of the hard cap at 125. Virtual power levels do sustain power drops below 125 in case of 6 or more beams.

One thing that isn't clear is that we do see a jump in DPS from FAW II cycle with 2 beams versus FAW II cycle with 2 beams and EPTW I cycle. What is tough to distinguish here is if the 5 second increase energy damage from EPTW I is providing that difference or if the hard cap is slightly above 125. I would have to do some extra number crunching to determine this. I believe someone has demonstrated before that the hard cap might be 135.

If anyone sees more information it would be great to gather some more insight.
The damage modifier from power levels has always been capped at 125.

Exceeding the soft cap of 125 is merely for the weapon drain, thus keeping more of your weapons at the 125 weapon power damage modifier.

And, I believe someone said, prior to Season 6, that the hard cap (which was at 135, then 150) has been removed.

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Andorian ships = no good
THE POWER OF KRATOS!!!

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# 310
02-25-2013, 02:34 PM
i consider myself middle of the pack when it comes to pvp. i recently tried a kumari in pvp. it was rather embarrassing. i don't plan on taking an andorian ship back into pvp anytime soon for sure.
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