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# 31
02-25-2013, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by doffingcomrade View Post
And that's what's holding back popularity. Not "uncompleteness", but Cryptic's unwillingness to simply allow people to dive in.
That's purely wishful thinking, the KDF (and any hypothetical Romulan factions) will never be as popular as the Federation. This is not a bad thing, nor does it reflect poorly on the other less popular factions. Its just a result of the way Star Trek is.

That said, I'm baffled but at the same time relieved they haven't added more ships to the KDF.

Baffled because it can't be that difficult, heck,they could sell slightly cheaper new ships using the pre-existing ship costumes with new layouts and people would accept it since its established in canon that the KDF tends to keep the external look of their ships constant.

Relieved because adding more ships would really bring parity to the factions (an extra 20 low levels would be more of a hindrance, ask any fed player...). If the factions were equal I'm 100% sure all the little bribes to play KDF (mostly based around Dil and EC) would be taken away rather than added the blue side. Since my KDF alts have become hard working farmers in this post S6 and S7 world I'd hate to loose my easy Dil! There was once a time my KDF tac would stomp all over the Borg in her Vo'Quv or Guramba.... those days are just gone. The grinds mean I can only really have one main supported by several farmers .

But...OP, do not feel bad about people clamoring for a Romulan faction and prophetising the end of the KDF. There is just no way that Cryptic can release anything as good as what they are fooling themselves into believing is being released. Even with all the added developers (a good chunk of whom are probably over a NWO in a mad dash to get that released) Cryptic has a history of under delivering.
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# 32
02-25-2013, 05:07 PM
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As a lockbox ship the D'Deridex is going to be a heavily armed cruiser with a turn rate of 12, 5 fore weapons, 3 aft, Sensor Analysis, and a battle cloak. Oh and 10 consoles.

Why? Cause ... lockbox!
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# 33
02-25-2013, 05:12 PM
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Not true in the slightest. KDF doesn't want special treatment, it wants EQUAL treatment. Or at least a lot closer to equal than we have now. We just want KDF-centric missions of our own, rough KDF-equivalents to some of the newer Fed ships, and other such things.
But how do you convince the guys in charge of the money? Simply saying "its the right thing to do" is never going to cut it.

This is why I'm so doubtful of a Romulan faction. Even if it was released I really doubt it'd be more than the last 5 levels with 3 t4 free ships (an escort, sci vessel, and a cruiser) and everything else at a premium prize. In essence an even less complete faction than the KDF currently is, merely a way to monetize Romulan shinies without any pretense at a real faction.
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# 34
02-25-2013, 06:02 PM
people want romulans, let them play as romulans - as part of the kdf or federation.

make romulan ships available to both factions only accessible if you are a romulan character (of course that would create a lot of 'i want to do what i want' whines)


the above are better ideas than a third faction in a game where the 2nd faction is incomplete.
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# 35
02-25-2013, 06:33 PM
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I actually skim over a lot of the threads in many of the different areas of the forums. I am thinking that most of us do.

I am picking up on a common theme amongst the Federation-centric and general forums that has me a bit down. That theme is a yearning for a true Romulan faction...and married to that theme are the ideas that for all intents and purposes the KDF as a faction should be considered "done" because it is likely that more players will flock to the Romulan faction anyway, and the KDF really does not need much new content...or ships...or storyline..and that it has been three years...and this is all the KDF should expect, other than the ability to start at level 1. I even saw one guy say that the number of ships are like 50 or so available at Tier 5, and that the KDF has more variety of vessels than the Feds do, and don't need any more ship types at all.

You know...if that happens (a new rom faction with the KDF being considered "done" as is)..well, I am a lifetime subscriber, so "leaving" the game is not really an option since I can pick it back up wherever I may have left off at...but if it goes down in this way, I will be extremely dissapointed.

I know that what is driving this is a certain demographic in the Federation player base that does not care the slightest for Klingon content or the KDF faction -- all they care about is getting into that sexy Romulan War Bird as soon as they can...and so they view the KDF as an obstacle to that goal...and obstacle that they really do not see as an obstacle because they -- in their own minds at least -- do not recognize the KDF as a true faction in this game.

It is sad. And depressing.
the feds have close to 100 ships last time i counted and kdf 60odd how it that fair only thing i want from cryptic is a few missions so players can choose to play kdf without having to lvl a fed.

also when they make a fed ship they make a kdf version too that not much to ask for. i want the factions to be treated equal ballance them out.

i have never ever come across a game where the dev pick one faction over the other it doesnt make sense its just bloody lazy.

and as for saying more players play fed so its more bang for buck they shot them selfs in the foot. they force players to choose feds and never produce fair content for kdf so most players dont bother to try kdf since they already spent time and money on feds.

MORE people would play kdf if cryptic forced them to play kdf 1st DUH. wheres the logic in ti.

i dont care that feds have around tripple the amount of mission. but as for the ships locking out picking a faction and not making any cstore items for kdf is bloody stupid and anoying.

i hope season 8 will fix this as its surposed to have more kdf stuff. i'll belive it when i see it !.
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# 36
02-25-2013, 06:38 PM
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I've got a feeling we don't have that much to worry about.
I believe when the Romulans come out, there will be a much larger portion of the playerbase migrating from the Federation than the KDF.
Simply because those who play KDF seem to actually want to play KDF while a whole bunch of people are just playing Fed because they don't have what they want available.
I agree. The real worry seems to be coming from feds (like on the next page) that worry a complete KDF would ruin thier ability to farm KDF toons for Dil and EC to feed thier fed toons.
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# 37
02-25-2013, 06:46 PM
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the feds have close to 100 ships last time i counted and kdf 60odd how it that fair only thing i want from cryptic is a few missions so players can choose to play kdf without having to lvl a fed.
I hope you are not cooking the books and counting costumes as a ship, its irrelevant if its a Miranda, a Centaur or a ShiKahr, its still the same ship (Light Cruiser) and I also hope that cooking does not extend to Fleet ships.

To me only T5/Fleet Ships matter because a Miranda is a non-entity at end game because nobody is going to fly one of those, there is a lot of junk on both sides like the Mirror ships that just clog up to make statistics, now I am not saying at this point there are not more Federation ships (not costumes) that KDF ships but at the same time I have to ask ... so what? If we are relying the same thing over again with a different ship its not that much of a difference, Feds could have 1000 ships and KDF just 10 and not change a damn thing that is ... we all done it before several times and its not going to be that much different because of a new toy.

At PvP ... thats diferent but PvE? beat it once and its going to be that different anyway.

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I agree. The real worry seems to be coming from feds (like on the next page) that worry a complete KDF would ruin thier ability to farm KDF toons for Dil and EC to feed thier fed toons.

I dont farm, have a nice surplus I have no real reason to use anyway and most of my Dilithium comes from Rep projects now as well from STF runs for OMs ... I cannot be arsed to go around farming for a currency I have little use for anyway, there are so many times we can "aid the Defari" until we grow sick of it.

BTW my real money maker was my first character when I was farming STFs pre-Season 7 launch and was hitting the Daily because how aggressive I was at it, also I used to run Kerrat in the good old days of the 30 minute mission because I could just run then until I hit the cap for the day and the next one, EC was a slight different matter but still my first character payed more for things that my Kling did, as farming gone it seem it was 2012 winter event were I farmed with my Kling.

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# 38
02-25-2013, 06:49 PM
FYI: FEDS have almost 20 VA Ships... KDF has 3 maybe 4-7
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# 39
02-25-2013, 06:54 PM
I am VERY Sad to say this but I want to merge with the FEDs now....
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# 40
02-25-2013, 06:57 PM
With the CANON thing.. FEDs are completly off. Why cant the Empire???
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