Methinks this is more relevant than your entire argument. You don't like PvP. We get that. It doesn't mean you have any more right to demand unreasonable concessions from the PvP community than the PvP community gets to demand unreasonable concessions from the PvE community.

And yes, demanding full access to rewards so you don't have to partake in a specific type of content is included in the "unreasonable concessions" category.

I hate the reputation system, not leat because the optional set remains bugged and thus blocked for us hybrids.

I never had a problem with the sets before, thanks to the rep system I can't get them short of deleting my character and playing everything again.

ANYWAY, pvp rep can go 1 of 2 ways for me.

A) you have to win matches to earn pvp marks

Do fixed matches with fleet, never actually pvp anyone and stop at the end of the rep.

b) you earn pvp marks losing.

Do fixed matches in public, never actually pvp anyone (remove shields, turn shield power down etc.) and stop at the end of the rep.

Until pvp is inheriently revamped the rep system wil only artificially prolong life either which way.


They could of course also chose to add gear that is only functional in pvp in which case I won't be showing up at all.

I counter with making the best gear in the game available ONLY from playing PvP.

Wanna play easy mode only, then you only get mediocre gear.

No, that totally won't be exploited.

Just like the only way to get New Romulan gear is to do New Romulan content. I'm not sure why you think PvP gear should be different.

I don't care for PvP in MMO's myself. If I want to do PvP I'd play something designed around it like a FPS or something. So I'm not some "PvP Lord" or anything.

But what you're asking for is both unreasonable and ridiculous. You're asking for a way to get PvP rewards without actually playing PvP.

Best for PvP? By all means. Best for everything? I'm dubious.

This has my vote. Brilliant idea.

So you have to play the best mode to get the best gear? You'll need the best ships for that and we all know that the best ships are escorts. Let's just rub the noses of cruiser and sci captains in it once more, shall we?


No, I'm saying that there should be NO PvP reputation until PvP is fixed. The reason more people don't play it is because it's broken.

So now we've got "unnerf my tricos", "I hate PvP" and "nerf the escorts while you buff my cruisers". Can you throw in some KDF vs. Fed stuff so this thread is officially 100% derailed?

That's a highly subjective statement. I'm not saying PvP doesn't need to be fixed, but PvP has never been very popular in this game.

Sorry that your Pinto can't keep up with the McLaren, guess my story of killing a bugship with white gear wouldn't interest ya.