Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 471
# 71
02-27-2013, 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kagurazaka77 View Post
If you throw a 20 sided die 50 times in a row. It could possibly land on 7 all 20 times. It's not likely, but it's possible.

It's also possible that it will never land on 7, even if you throw it a million times.

Random is just that.

Random. And just because one person rolled one way and another rolled another doesn't mean the die is weighted. It is a good indication that your perception of it is, however.


The Dominion boxes have the mining claim.
There are a lot of claims around and a lot of evidence that supports the theory that the random number generator is not working "truly randomly".

One of the devs commented on the need to go through the number generator's code and ensure it is outputting properly. Chains of identical items shouldn't be common and yet they are.

Hell I saw a guy open 3 wells class ships 3 boxes in a row. If the number generator is operating properly what are the odds of that?
Ensign
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 9
# 72
03-03-2013, 03:56 PM
How do you pass items from one of your characters to another? I have a few things I'd like to give to my other characters so I can ditch the one character and start a new one.
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 120
# 73
03-04-2013, 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
I just like to point out you could of sold the keys on the exchange then got the ship off the exchange, and weapons for it.

would of net you at least 100mill


i spend couple days ago about 430 mil. and didnt get ship ... so i buy him from exchange
and couple month ago i open 5 cardassian lock boxes and get 4 galor ship ... a half yr before that i open too many box to get galor and nothin ...

chance is always there .... "un-PWE" will normalize chance for box sometime
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,133
# 74
03-04-2013, 05:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by altai8008 View Post
it'd be interesting to know if anyone has ever lucked out first time and got a dreadnought carrier out of their first ever box..
not even remotely possible...i give you 30 seconds to figure out why...



time is up


there is no dreadnought carrier in any lockbox...it is only in the lobi store.
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 203
# 75
03-04-2013, 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seekerkorhil View Post
There are a lot of claims around and a lot of evidence that supports the theory that the random number generator is not working "truly randomly".

One of the devs commented on the need to go through the number generator's code and ensure it is outputting properly. Chains of identical items shouldn't be common and yet they are.

Hell I saw a guy open 3 wells class ships 3 boxes in a row. If the number generator is operating properly what are the odds of that?
I remember back in the old days, random number have to be "seed" which can be anything, the computer will "randomly" generate a number from that (from a range)

I'm sure coding has gotten a lot more sophisticated and can come pretty close in generating number.

BUT......

since it is "random" then it is a chance a person could get 3 ships in a row, the only way to "break that pattern" is to keep track and only generate a win after x tries (which then it is not as random isn't it?)
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Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 250
# 76
03-05-2013, 06:50 AM
I was not planning on adding to this post, but in the interests of fair reporting, I blew another pile of dilithium to get 50 keys to buy the Tachyokinetic Converter.

First box I opened, yup, the Heavy Escort Carrier.

What are the chances of that?
"He tasks me. He tasks me, and I shall have him. For every doff box bought, I'll chase him round the Moons of Nibia and round the Antares Maelstrom and round Perdition's flames. For every single doff box opened, I stab at thee from hell's heart. For every single doff contributed, I spit my last breath at thee..." Khan Playing STO
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 155
# 77
03-05-2013, 07:51 AM
The thing that gets me is...you constantly see "<enter name here> has won a Jem'Hadar escort carrier" constantly on the system messages, with the odds of actually getting one how the heck are so many people getting them...or are they? BUAH HA HA HA HA HA.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 790
# 78
03-05-2013, 05:00 PM
the Mine claims are good have 136
about same on doffs the trick as I found out is move up in fleet the higher you go the better your chances
the lock boxes are tied to fleet advancment system

as for the doffs not stupid they for star base projects
Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 44
# 79
03-05-2013, 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by humblesheep View Post
100 Lockboxes, (cost 990,000 Dilithium for the keys, exchanging at 88:1) wanted a Jem?Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier. Didnt get it.

Worthless junk:
76 dilithium claims,
and some other stuff that went straight in the recycler.
Thanks for posting your results.

I don't always open boxes, but when I do:
I like to have an idea of the actual outcomes.

Just curious tho, and this is not the first time I've seen it commented on. Why do people dislike the "Dilithium Claims"?
personally I love them, log on do 5 mins of work and make 3/4 of my daily refine limit.

Cheers
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 132
# 80
03-06-2013, 04:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by humblesheep View Post
100 Lockboxes, (cost 990,000 Dilithium for the keys, exchanging at 88:1) wanted a Jem?Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier. Didnt get it.
Hm, opened 20 boxes for lobi. Didnt' want a Jem Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier but got one.
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