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# 81
02-25-2013, 04:42 PM
is there another andorian ship supposed to be coming soon ?
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# 82
02-27-2013, 08:01 AM
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WHAT THE HECK?? - where did you come from?? - Were you on a 5 month deep space mission or something? Been a long time since I have seen you post.
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# 83
02-27-2013, 04:22 PM
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Hmm, seems out of place in a 25th century setting, seeing as Andoria is no longer an independent "empire", as far as I know. Any chance we can get an A.D.F. (Andorian Defense Fleet) prefix, or something like that?
I thought all Federation world were independent and the Federation was basically like the U.N. or E.U.
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# 84
02-28-2013, 07:15 AM
Correct.

It is important to note that there are two independent, but related bodies here. The United Federation of Planets, and Starfleet.

The Federation is like the UN. Each subsidiary nation (or world in this case) can, and likely does, still have it's own means of production, and it's own ships. (Vulcan, Andorian, Caitian, etc.).
However, Starfleet is like NATO, it's an intergovernmental military force. Unlike NATO, Starfleet is the military wing of the UFP. Starfleet ships are what we are used to seeing (all the enterprises, etc.), but they are not the only ships within the Federation.
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# 85
02-28-2013, 07:56 AM
Vulcan Science ships are mentioned in DS9 and some are seen during TNG
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# 86
02-28-2013, 08:02 AM
Nice to see the other species of the federation are finally beginning to pulling their weight and support the war effort. It's actually starting feel like a federation of planets with unique cultures instead of a single controlling empire. Too bad the other ships didn't get cultural bridges , little details like that make the cultures stand out. Well guess I'll just hope there might be more Caitian ships in the future or at the very least a Caitian carrier frigate pet. *wink * wink*

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# 87
02-28-2013, 08:06 AM
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Nice to see the other species of the federation are finally beginning to pulling their weight and support the war effort. It's actually starting feel like a federation of planets with unique cultures instead of a single controlling empire. Too bad the other ships didn't get cultural bridges , little details like that make the cultures stand out. Well guess I'll just hope there might be more Caitian ships in the future or at the very least a Caitian carrier frigate pet. *wink * wink*
Ferasan first, then we can get more for our fed cats.
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# 88
02-28-2013, 08:10 AM
The Federation is an odd government. It asserts territorial control without asserting sovereignty over that territory.

This leads to some unusual situations like the Nausicaan and Orion homeworlds being inside the Federation but not in the Federation.

In those cases, a government like the Klingon Empire would say "we own your planet and there's nothing you can do about it," the Federation says "we don't own your planet, but we own everything around it and if you shape up you can join us."

I'm not sure this sort of governance would actually function in the face of hostiles inside its borders, TBH. But nobody ever claimed Star Trek was realistic.
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# 89
02-28-2013, 08:11 AM
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Ferasan first, then we can get more for our fed cats.
I'll admit I'm curious to see what a Ferasan ship would look like.
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# 90
02-28-2013, 08:26 AM
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Vulcan Science ships are mentioned in DS9 and some are seen during TNG
Spock's ship in Star Trek 2009 (the jellyfish) was built by Vulcans and designed in large part by Geordi La Forge during a break he took from Starfleet and was, hence, not a Starfleet ship.

Just a side note as I've seen discussion on the point:

I believe the STO timeline for Geordi goes something like this and does deviate from the novels: Served on the Enterprise-E for around 6-7 years after Nemesis and married a widowed Leah Brahms, having three kids with her. Geordi took an assignment to resurrect Data by overwriting B4. This was an assignment at the Soong Institute that Bruce Maddox quit in disgust over because it violated B4's rights. Geordi was blinded by his desire to see his friend again. In the end they saved B4 by backing him up to a holodeck but Data was deeply upset with Geordi. Geordi, depressed, quit Starfleet and his marriage fell apart. He was pulled in by Spock to design the Jellyfish for the Vulcan Science Council. He decided to resume his Starfleet career and took command of the Galaxy-class U.S.S. Challenger, where he married his (still unnamed) chief engineer and they served together as husband and wife. He is theoretically still in command of the Challenger to this day after around 15 years of service there.
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