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# 21
02-28-2013, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by canis36 View Post
Actually Brandon's the community manager and not directly involved in the development of the game beyond sticking his head in to somebody office and going "Hey, you know that change you made to such and such? The forumites found it and man, are they pissed!"

He also stated that the video guys aren't involved either - they're just there for video and PR/Promotional stuff.
Right, what I meant by that is if the video guys are working on ads or promotional/informational stuff for the big update formerly known as Season 8 later this year, I wouldn't want to suggest that they get pulled from doing that kind of work for a smaller project like the featured ships. It would still be a really cool addition, though, and something that you could link people to if you wanted to show off your favorite ship in the game.
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# 22
02-28-2013, 01:52 PM
I want to know why the B'rel Fleet is getting the enhanced cloak.

It should not. There should be NO REASON why a non-cstore ship is receiving what is essentially a cstore built in console.


I've said it in another thread and I'll say it here:

Give the Cstore B'rel a console. One that synergizes with the enhanced cloak.

Cstore console:
Passive: Removes shared global cooldown from torpedoes while the ambush effect (5s after de-cloak) is active.
+X% speed boost to heavy torpedoes (X= based on AUX power setting past 50pwr)
+X% damage boost to heavy torpedoes (X=based on wep power setting past 50pwr)


That will allow the B'rel cstore to fire all its torps at once just by using 'fire all torpedoes' command. Currently the b'rel suffers horribly from the global timer firing different torps at random when you press it. It will allow it to give either a speed or damage (or a mix of each) boost to heavy torpedoes.

Now, since the heavy torpedoes do not fire until the ship finishes decloaking, there are only 3 seconds left in the ambush effect to fire the heavy torps. Thats why the removal of the global cooldown on torps there will only kick in once (even with 3 purple torp doffs you arent firing heavy torps faster than 2s).

This console synergizes perfectly with the enhanced cloak, does not boost non-heavy torpedoes (lets face it, quantum and photon already have very high dmg boost from spread/high yield).
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# 23
02-28-2013, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cmdrskyfaller View Post
I want to know why the B'rel Fleet is getting the enhanced cloak.
The same reason that the Fleet Advanced Heavy Cruiser-R has its improved Transwarp drive - they're both integral parts of the ship in question, not console abilities, and you pay for them. There's a reason that both the Fleet B'rel-R and the Fleet Advanced Heavy Cruiser-R cost 5 Fleet modules instead of the usual 4.
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# 24
02-28-2013, 02:21 PM
I would happily buy a new c-store escort KDF ship.
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# 25
02-28-2013, 02:24 PM
Some people forget about shields and is about time we have other options than having to science it up LOL. Then again there will always be trolls of this ship to keep it from ever progressing. The only progress this ship has got in last 2 years other than the torpedo global not being 3 seconds between torps is the hazard emitters not decloaking it.

Cryptic shoulda known to give it some love before featuring it.
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# 26
02-28-2013, 03:17 PM
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Equipped with Enhanced Battle Cloak...
It's been a while since I've really played any of my KDF toons and used any sort of cloak, but I wonder, and perhaps you more KDF-Loyal players can tell me, is the "cloak bug" (the one that yanks you out of cloak every time a BO or info box pops-up) still around? The one from like 2 years ago? Is the "Enhanced Battle Cloak" immune from that, or is it equally affected?

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# 27
02-28-2013, 03:20 PM
"Cloak bug" is still there. Its all down to the KDF engineers routing the cloak controls through the Bloodwine dispenser. My crews definitely try to get me drunk.
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# 28
02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
edit ...

OK OK OK my bad my bad !!!

I figured it was new because it was featured and I don't play much KDF.

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... move along now
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# 29
02-28-2013, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lordhavelock View Post
It's been a while since I've really played any of my KDF toons and used any sort of cloak, but I wonder, and perhaps you more KDF-Loyal players can tell me, is the "cloak bug" (the one that yanks you out of cloak every time a BO or info box pops-up) still around? The one from like 2 years ago? Is the "Enhanced Battle Cloak" immune from that, or is it equally affected?
Stahl basically called it working as intended where dialogue breaks the cloak of any ship from the defiant, galaxy-X, bops, heavy battle cruisers, raptors, and b'rel. Here is the list since a year ago they fixed though.

1. The B'rel no longer breaks cloak on the pi canis messages but it does spawn the jam communications while you are cloaked where as other ships don't get the prompt for it until they decloak.

2. Every NPC no longer see's you with the b'rel unless you fully decloak or do the 3 second decloak.

3. Not exclusive to the B'rel but they changed torpedoes from 3 second to 1 second global cd per facing.

4. The Hazard Emitter bug where it kept you decloaked when you used it on yourself or others was fixed.

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Good to see the Klinks getting a new ship. This was surely planned before the Andorian ship, and all the rage was occurring on the forums by the KDF. So why not just let them a KDF ship was coming and to calm down?

I miss the 'coming soon' calendar on the website

ps. battle cloak for Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit one day?
Uhhh where did you hear we were getting a new ship? We have always had the b'rel on the KDF side they are just featuring it since its the word on the street is that its not as useful as it should be. We do complain like for instance the iconic b'rel from Star Trek 6 Undiscovered country although it was destroyed it packed way more of a punch than it does in game a lot like could be said for the intrepid ablative armor and the armitage when it comes to torpedoes.

Only thing we recieved in a year since the bortasqu' was the Kamarag/K'maj. As far as featured ships they are just ships that they show the lowest sales with and then they advertise it like this although they should have come up with a solution of the problem of having to use high end science to take out shields to use this ship well. I do have a tactical transphasic setup but my opinion on it is I have to go to the extremes to use it well where as any target I am attacking has way more options as far as cons of using the B'rel vs the benefits. When KDF complain about it is because about half the science skills in the game can decloak it and then sensor scan and a c-store console can also decloak it but on top of all that when we use most boff skills or fire torpedoes we have yet another con of decloaking for 3 seconds.

In all they need to work on it before they see any sales on it again because ppl in the KDF for most part like myself are not going to lie to someone and say its a great ship for gameplay its kind of like fed ships (examples: intrepid and multi vector) they look nice and are icons of Star Trek but in game play they really suck.
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# 30
02-28-2013, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jkstocbr View Post
Good to see the Klinks getting a new ship. This was surely planned before the Andorian ship, and all the rage was occurring on the forums by the KDF. So why not just let them a KDF ship was coming and to calm down?

I miss the 'coming soon' calendar on the website

ps. battle cloak for Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit one day?
lol No, don't tell me, but you must be joking, right?

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