Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 281
# 31
03-10-2013, 04:32 AM
Completely two-faced, total bait-and-switch, blatant double-standards; and just low down immoral and dishonest. Twice now you, Cryptic, have advertised something related to these escorts as being better than they really are. I'm just grateful I hadn't started buying these yet; there is no point to sell this at an inferior mark other that intended to force people to buy an upgrade in the near future via another asinine reputation system or other means. This is unethical and a damn disgrace to even consider. While yes you got to make money, screwing customers over something as trivial as special coloured weapons to match a ship you already got 25-50 dollars for is disgusting.
Starfleet Veteran
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# 32
03-10-2013, 09:09 AM
If I go in to a store and I buy something that they've mislabeled as being cheaper they will honour that price as they recognise that they made the error.

How about you show a little bit of responsibility, Cryptic? Do the honourable thing. Accept that you erred and either leave out weapons alone or give me a refund.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 231
# 33
03-10-2013, 12:57 PM
I bought a full set of andorian weapons for my kumari pretty much just to have as blue phasers since they were competitive and flavorful.

Since "archoncryptic" sees fit to reduce nerf them after the fact I'd like a full refund of all the dilithium used to purchase them - I would have simply stuck to my mk XII phased polarons if blue andorian guns were outright inferior.

Happy for the andorian guns to be deleted out of my inventory by a customer service representative, but I don't want my space guns to be made into worthless junk without equivalent recompense. Not like I need mk XI guns for anything other than to be worse than everyone else.
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# 34
03-10-2013, 03:25 PM
lol... It is to laugh really. I am SO glad I went with my fleet guns instead of those blue phasers... I would have loved the color swap but I had a feeling they would never be worth it by comparison and I was soooo right.

Why bother offering special weapons for this ship, a ship that is supposed to be the be-all and end-all of DPS, and then make sure that those weapons are rather mediocre? Does not sound like you kept yourselves on message here.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 249
# 35
03-10-2013, 03:51 PM
Somehow I'm really happy I avoided this scam. I guess the proper way of correcting this error is just keeping them as they are and renaming them to Mk XII.
There are not that many reasons to go for them anyway. If you have a fleet, fleet phasers are better. Even without a fleet, Mk XII phasers from exchange are easier to get.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 36
03-10-2013, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by aurigas7 View Post
Somehow I'm really happy I avoided this scam. I guess the proper way of correcting this error is just keeping them as they are and renaming them to Mk XII.
Pretty much, also if its "too cheap" just slap 20k extra cost over it and call it a day ... serious, this isnt rocket science as altering the stats down will just make people upset and more weary of spending Dilithium on items.

I already consider the Dilithium Store utter worthless and I suspect most people do, why is there is a button that we only press it by accident?

Quote:
There are not that many reasons to go for them anyway. If you have a fleet, fleet phasers are better. Even without a fleet, Mk XII phasers from exchange are easier to get.
Yes but more expensive, more or less ... in the Exchange they go for millions but there is more options of mods, Fleet is cheaper and statistical supposedly superior.

Cryptic seems to have a nerfing knee jerking reaction to when looking at something, other companies would just raise price and change the description to reflect the stats that nerf it, otherwise you get what you see here and this is before the patch goes live and its just the "minority" that reads the forums.

Good luck on selling ANYTHING on the Dilithium store from that point on with the current methodology of "end game gear", after all how is crafting doing these days?

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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,352
# 37
03-10-2013, 05:08 PM
Four Dual Heavy Cannons x 22,620

Two Turrets x 22,620



135,720 Dilithium spent on what we now know is going to be garbage.


This is completely unacceptable.

I could have personally cleared two fleet projects with that and WAITED until the USEFUL Andorian weapons for my $50 shipset.


Cryptic, this is *&#%^@* Clownshoes horseflop and needs to be remedied.

Last edited by foundrelic; 03-10-2013 at 05:10 PM.
Career Officer
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# 38
03-10-2013, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by darramouss1 View Post
I'm calling you out on this.

Spiral Wave disruptors are powerful beyond belief. Where are they bought from? Yes, that's right, the dilithium store. "But you need the Galor to buy them", you say. Yes, you also need the Andorian ship to buy the Andorian weapons.
Spirals also cost 43k dil.

The solution is obvious; leave the Andorian weapons with Mk XII stats, change their tooltip to show Mk XII, and increase their price accordingly. Nobody loses anything they've already purchased and the early adopters get to enjoy their discount.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 249
# 39
03-10-2013, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by futurepastnow View Post
Spirals also cost 43k dil.

The solution is obvious; leave the Andorian weapons with Mk XII stats, change their tooltip to show Mk XII, and increase their price accordingly. Nobody loses anything they've already purchased and the early adopters get to enjoy their discount.
Spirals are fleet level weapons with 4 modifiers. My first thought was the upgrade option would add a 4th modifier to the Andorian phasers. Ah well. Should have known better.
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# 40
03-10-2013, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by archoncryptic View Post
The Dilithium store isn't intended to carry the best equipment in the game. These items were priced as Mark XI items - similar to the other gear already available in the Dilithium store. The incorrect stats were a bug, and I apologize if people bought them based on that bug.

As a general rule, we try to keep our endgame equipment in endgame systems, such as the Fleet system and the various Reputation systems.

We'd like to have higher-end Andorian weapons available as well, and we're currently discussing the best way to make those available to players.
Step 1 Add andorian melee weapons

Step 2 have players battle to the death

Step 3 insert ways to get the better gear
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