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# 11
03-12-2013, 12:37 PM
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Agreed.

I've pugged in my Peregrine once or twice before just for lulz. Even got a couple of kills. (And I got reported... ) I don't make a habit out of doing that but I honestly don't see the problem if anyone chooses to bring some unconventional ship into a random PvP queue.
But you're ruining everyones fun. The opposing team will just target you and everyones skill and effort will be wasted.

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Worst case, the match is over in five minutes and you go on to the next one. And as often as not, the lunatic in the shuttle or Miranda or whatever actually knows what he's doing and is more effective than Mr. Clueless in his shiny new Kumari.
Worst case scenario for you. For everyone else in the match you are the worst case scenario.
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# 12
03-12-2013, 12:46 PM
There is always a weak link anyway especially if you pug fed side it's full of them regardless of ship used

They buy a Kumari or an odyssey 3 pack and expect to be jean luc/god
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# 13
03-12-2013, 12:46 PM
Not much you could except jump in a shuttle yourself so it would be more even and pray you run into him lolol.

Ok now seriously just blow him up as much as possible... Go defensive until he respawns and kill him again. A couple of 15 death matches and he might switch to a ship.
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# 14
03-12-2013, 12:48 PM
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I don't condone it, but surely you're allowed to fly whatever you want where you want?
Not when it screws the rest of the team mates over - Have dedicated ques for that stuff instead

I take it the said person is a species of ape??
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# 15
03-12-2013, 01:10 PM
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The thing is if you want to grief, you will still be able too even without using a low tier ship or shuttle.

He can just use no shields and no armor consoles and keep flying to the enemy and suiciding, or he could just AFK at the spawn.
That's why the solution is to ban the player.

There will always be ways to grief, but players who do it should be banned and have their IP banned.
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# 16
03-12-2013, 01:40 PM
But who's to draw the line at who's "griefing" and who's just plain dumb????

I for one when I first went into a que didn't have a clue what I was doing some could so I still don't and I for one have seen other players do far more stupid things than me setup and ship choice wise
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# 17
03-12-2013, 02:32 PM
Does somebody inject the slippery slope argument into this? I mean, given the thoughts expressed here and there by certain people...it's not really as farfetched to suggest that slope as it may outwardly appear.

The guy flying the shuttles (is it our old irrefutable friend? - I miss that thread)...is being told that he is not contributing and is ruining it for everybody else. If he wants to fly a shuttle, he should do private matches.

Okay, are there any other folks that might have been told that they're not contributing as well? Are there any types of Careers, Ships, Weapons, etc, etc, etc where somebody at some point has said they do not make a contribution?

At what point, is it really a case that those that do not feel that XYZ contribute - should do private matches - rather than insist that everybody else does, eh?


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# 18
03-12-2013, 02:40 PM
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Does somebody inject the slippery slope argument into this? I mean, given the thoughts expressed here and there by certain people...it's not really as farfetched to suggest that slope as it may outwardly appear.

The guy flying the shuttles (is it our old irrefutable friend? - I miss that thread)...is being told that he is not contributing and is ruining it for everybody else. If he wants to fly a shuttle, he should do private matches.

Okay, are there any other folks that might have been told that they're not contributing as well? Are there any types of Careers, Ships, Weapons, etc, etc, etc where somebody at some point has said they do not make a contribution?

At what point, is it really a case that those that do not feel that XYZ contribute - should do private matches - rather than insist that everybody else does, eh?
I think this was sort of my point just virus dancers grammars far better than my own
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# 19
03-12-2013, 02:48 PM
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Does somebody inject the slippery slope argument into this? I mean, given the thoughts expressed here and there by certain people...it's not really as farfetched to suggest that slope as it may outwardly appear.

The guy flying the shuttles (is it our old irrefutable friend? - I miss that thread)
That's him.

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...is being told that he is not contributing and is ruining it for everybody else. If he wants to fly a shuttle, he should do private matches.

Okay, are there any other folks that might have been told that they're not contributing as well? Are there any types of Careers, Ships, Weapons, etc, etc, etc where somebody at some point has said they do not make a contribution?

At what point, is it really a case that those that do not feel that XYZ contribute - should do private matches - rather than insist that everybody else does, eh?
There are lots of people who don't make much of a contribution to the team and are pretty much cannon fodder for the other tside. It's annoying, but you know they're trying.

Going into a match deliberately flying a shuttle or a lower tier ship you don't stand a chance in, is just being an arse to the other nine people in the match. It's pretty much suiciding for dilithium, at least AFKers generally don't respawn when killed.

Of course this whole problem would be solved if Cryptic instigated a vote-to-kick feature. That way no one would need to be banned and people won't have a whole match wasted.
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# 20
03-12-2013, 02:53 PM
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Going into a match deliberately flying a shuttle or a lower tier ship you don't stand a chance in, is just being an arse to the other nine people in the match. It's pretty much suiciding for dilithium, at least AFKers generally don't respawn when killed.
I can't quite agree with that.

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