Lt. Commander
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# 11
03-08-2013, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by illcadia View Post
snip..

A new ship comes out. It is sold as basically a 'bundle' ....snip
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I love this idea and it would get me to buy things in the Zen Store. My case in point, I like flying cruisers. I liked the stats on the oddy 3 pack but I do not like the look of the ship - that just how i feel. I much prefer the look of the Galaxy and Ventures. So, I did not buy the Oddy because I did not want to spend all my time playing the game looking at a ship I did not like. But if I could buy the ship and put my Galaxy or venture skin on it, I would buy it in a heartbeat. But right not it is $50 Cryptic will not get.

I don?t understand, for a company that is always complemented for it?s ability to let players customized their look, we seem to be getting less and less of it. Really like how the original ships has three types and that you can mix and match to make a ship that still had the overall feel of the class but could still be a unique look.


Beers,

Jengoz =/
Captain
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# 12
03-08-2013, 07:45 AM
So, first of all, 3h 40 mins... I applaud. And it was pretty much on point throughout.

Second: Yay, I hope the C-Store Neghvar gets ready soon (real soon, not Cryptic trademarked soon). Assuming I could always get a good old neghvar skin on it (if it gets a new, ugly one), I'd have no reason not to get it right away (unlike the ugly B'Rel, Guramba, Marauder, so ugly i refuse to buy them).

Third: I have an unpleasant feeling from the interview that anyone that actually thinks about his/her build, what makes sense to use as abilities or equipment is a min-maxer to you. Which would be fine, you're entitled to your "categorisation" of players.
BUT, it comes across as an opinion that anyone falling in this min-maxer category seems to you as not being able to enjoy the game, only destined to nitpick on everything.

If I'm right, then I want to point out that even min-maxers enjoy playing, be it the PvP "bosses" (the real min-maxers in my book) or just the normal PvE player that wants to be better, explode less often, disabling enemies more efficiently.

Don't write off and neglect feedback from those players. They aren't a "handicapped" group of people (more so given his seemingly broad definion of min-maxers) whose only goal is to find flaws in your game. They're just trying to push the boundaries of what's possible, be it across the game or just individually ("Yay! I survived this mission on my own today!"). Actually, being the ones to think, build and test, their feedback is likely to be more accurate than that of, say, a roleplayer (at the very leeast when it comes to system issues).

Oh, and a last thing: good luck on trying to find time bringing older C-Store ships "up to par".
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix: Bring in the Allegiance class
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia: Design that long overdue Tier 5 C-Store Raptor
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var: Give us Asylums for Romulans

Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!

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# 13
03-08-2013, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jengoz View Post
I love this idea and it would get me to buy things in the Zen Store. My case in point, I like flying cruisers. I liked the stats on the oddy 3 pack but I do not like the look of the ship - that just how i feel. I much prefer the look of the Galaxy and Ventures. So, I did not buy the Oddy because I did not want to spend all my time playing the game looking at a ship I did not like. But if I could buy the ship and put my Galaxy or venture skin on it, I would buy it in a heartbeat. But right not it is $50 Cryptic will not get.

I don?t understand, for a company that is always complemented for it?s ability to let players customized their look, we seem to be getting less and less of it. Really like how the original ships has three types and that you can mix and match to make a ship that still had the overall feel of the class but could still be a unique look.


Beers,

Jengoz =/
Yeah. I mean they sold costumes without ships before and it didn't work so now they sell entire ships. I'm not suggesting that they should *not* sell 'entire' ships, but with that change you could buy a ship for its costume, or for its stats- so all the motivations to buy stuff that exist now would apply, and all the reasons to buy or not buy that exist now, would still apply.
Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 14
03-08-2013, 02:38 PM
Maybe there was an answer, but in the interview Al mentions that it isn't a coincidence that new update and new movie are coming in May. So my question is, and again maybe I missed it, does that mean they are just looking too boost advertising/marketing of the game because of the movie launch, or is there a link between what is going to occur in the movie and the game update?
Career Officer
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# 15
03-08-2013, 02:46 PM
first that was some epic long interview...
almost exhausting to listen to it in full length, but interesting enough to keep me listening


- Typhoon/Jupiter Class: agreed ugly, non-canon, no need

- Stargazer -> has to happen, i want ALL the canon Ships i pay money so you make more, not so you say "ooh this one is ugly, may not sell good enough, lets skip that one" [that is just like YOUR opinion / taste ], i am paying for STAR TREK, not for Cryitic's 2409 wannabe Ships.

- "25th Century Ships Are the Future!" ... imho we got pletny of 2409 Ships, all those +1 skins, regent, armitage and so on. MORE of that? *shrug* as long as you polish the canon Ships up while you sell more made up stuff i'd pay for that.
Personally when i bought the Armitage the first thing i did was to click on the Akira skin, when i bought the Regent first thing i did i clicked on the Sovereign Skin. I wanted the better stats but those made up visuals are nothing that i care for.

- Some older C-Store Ships aren?t exactly up to par. Is it worth it to update them?
yes totally.
not only stats but also visuals.
-> example: when you did the Regent Class i just really wanted a better Sovereign,
you maybe could have gotten more sales out of it if the original Sovereign Class Art Asset had gotten some visual polish time too (there are still some serious issues... like the deflector turning from blue to yellow when the LoD swap happens...)

-> or when the Armitage was made, give the Akira some love too... they go hand in hand, half the buyers will just swap skins because they don't like the new one, the other half will kitbash it with various pieces, only a few fly it like it was sold.
(and honestly the Armitage and Regent are more on the ugly end of things)

- "Lethean Ships?" i don't really see demand for these. for completions sake and to give the KDF *something*... sure why not. But i rarely see a Lethean PLAYER... how many of those are even out there? IMHO that is like asking for a Tellarite Ship... how many Tellarite players do you see on a daily basis? ....yah exactly. AND there was never a Lethean Ship on TV... so *meh*

- "Are bridges really worth it?"
- "C-Store Themed Bundles don?t exactly have the best return. The problem? Ship interiors."
...i'm sad to hear that they sell so badly, i really like them, even if they are mostly useless visual fluff.
Maybe you can start by putting better Pictures of them in the C-Store UI?
There is only this little mockup picture of the items, no good visual hint that there is a Bridge with the whole TV Set beneath it at all. -> ADVERTISING FAIL

- "Suliban ships? Meh, maybe not." .... sure, would be fun to shoot at in a mission or two. As Player ship? uuuh... no not really.

- "Romulan Birds of Prey are 300 years old!" .... Romulan Faction better have some new Ships to offer (i want to see as many Romulan Birds of Prey as there are Klingon Birds of Prey!!!)

- "Why do ships pop up in the C-Store more than costumes?"
i want more outfits... if they look good i'm also willing to pay more... they have been on the cheap end for a while.
i bought them ALL ...the per character stuff in the Lobi Store looks cheaply done and is stupid expensive, so i skip that mostly.
But i bought all the C-Store stuff. The Fleet Uniforms, got my STF armors on most chars by now... can never have enough clothing options! ....and when do we finally get some more KDF Hair !!!

- "The Next Update: User Interface"
i'm a little afraid about this one, i hate the UI as it is now, but i've gotten used to it in 3 years now... if the new one is worse or too different... oh dear. change is scary.

but mostly new UI without new UI tech behind it seems like a waste of Dev time -> UI eats way too much frame rate and produces bottlenecks for the GPU... fix your tech first, then re-do visuals please, or you will just end up redoing it again later anyway.


- "Foundry - Should the Foundry be able to make PVP maps?"
YES totally!
I'm not a story writer... but i bet you i could come up with some awesome PVP Maps, and cryptic has not added a single map in 3 Years, so why the hell not let us do it!
Being scared of exploits is an excuse, not a reason.

- "The Five Star Rating System ? Is it good or bad? What would replace it?"
imho BAD! the Youtube way: thumbs up / down and displaying just that is way better. either i liked it or i did not. There is no clear outline what a 2 or 4 star rating is even supposed to be for the player so it doesn't mean anything to me if another player votes 2 or 3 or 4 stars.

- "What?s the greatest improvement to Star Trek Online in the past 2 years?"
imho: the LARGE Mouse Cursor !!!!!!!! (dead serious about that one)

Gecko being proud about the Reputation System? dude have you even read some of the feedback on the Forum? That was the most un-fun addition to STO since the DXP exploration cluster grind. How can one be proud of that? I'd be ashamed if i had done that. (it has potential to be really awesome, but it just being a currency sink and timegated grind.... and the same 2 passive skills for all 3 classes?... meh ...just MEH! )
The best thing of the Reputation System is when you are finally finished with it.
Fun Level: PAINFUL!
(the maps, by all means are fun, but i did not need a Rep System to play them, Dilithium and FM would have been enough for me to play the shiznit out of Mine Trap!)

- "Doff System Crafted Items: should they get additional functionality to make them desirable again?"
yes totally, having a 4 step chain that already requires uncommon items and then only produces item that nobody wants anymore... whats the use of that?
...and i agree initially i could make a lot of EC through DOffing, by now there are very few things left that have any value. Actually i think we just only need some new stuff for DOffing... has been a long time since anything new has been added ( and i would know, i did not really need to update http://bit.ly/DOFFS since Heretic left ! :-( ... DOff system is in maintenance mode if you ask me)

- "Will we get to see Rademaker?s Merian Class?"
I bought the Vesta.... BECAUSE i wanted to see MORE Rademarker stuff, to show Cryptic that it would be a GOOD idea to get more of his stuff, or more fan created stuff in general.
If the Merian Class is good enough for Doug Drexler's Ships of the Line Calendar, then it is good enough for STO!
(not every ship needs to be a $50 C-Store item... not everyobdy is that rich, where are the Cheap Alternatives? We need some 500 Zen ships again!)

- "Can we fix the Defiant?s name lighting please?"
i can give you a laundry list of things to fix on Ships.....
it is right here: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=163481
just that nobody seems to care

- "Beam Boats drain too much power. Can they be fixed?"
as i wrote in the other thread, how about giving Cruisers MORE energy? (how about capping it at 200, instead of 125?)

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Captain
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# 16
03-11-2013, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by toiva View Post
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Oh, and a last thing: good luck on trying to find time bringing older C-Store ships "up to par".
Somehow i strongly doubt he will "find" time to bring the Galaxy -R "up on par". (which IS an "older" C-Store ship IMO.)

And even if he gets forced to do it at gunpoint, we will just end up with a slightly "enhanced" ship, which has still the most boring BOFF & Console Layout.
(I would bet, he would give it just ANOTHER ensign engineering BOFF slot, so he can say "enough now, we finally Improved it". )

But of course, he will "fix" every other ship before that...
Even if it's the NX- Class, LOL.

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Survivor of Romulus
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# 17
03-14-2013, 01:56 PM
I haven't listened to PodcastUGC in...oh...roughly a year now. Decided to give this interview a listen because I like Al, and like to hear what he has to say. Halfway through the show now, and it's been a constant reminder as to why I no longer listen to it.

Oh, and Al, please, no Jupiter or Typhoon class ships.
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Captain
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# 18
03-15-2013, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ravin View Post
I haven't listened to PodcastUGC in...oh...roughly a year now. Decided to give this interview a listen because I like Al, and like to hear what he has to say. Halfway through the show now, and it's been a constant reminder as to why I no longer listen to it.

Oh, and Al, please, no Jupiter or Typhoon class ships.
Well, he said since he didn't like them, he wouldn't do them. At least not the way they look now as NPCs.

I'm not really happy to hear this: "I don't like --> I won't do" dogma, but in this particular case, I very much agree.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix: Bring in the Allegiance class
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia: Design that long overdue Tier 5 C-Store Raptor
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var: Give us Asylums for Romulans

Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
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# 19
03-16-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by toiva View Post
Well, he said since he didn't like them, he wouldn't do them. At least not the way they look now as NPCs.

I'm not really happy to hear this: "I don't like --> I won't do" dogma, but in this particular case, I very much agree.
I couldn't say it better.
I am glad that HE doesn't like the Typhoon or the Jupiter, but what if he would?

Well as long as he owns Star Trek, or at least STO he can do with it what he wants.
...oh wait, i think i'm confusing something right now...


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Captain
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# 20
03-18-2013, 10:59 PM
Okay you want to do more original ship, the problem there is that most of your designs in game SUCK. Especially the escorts. I like New Orleans and I do like to see Constellation and Soyuz. And still the is the fan base you come up with very good designs. look at Ultimate Universe Mod, or Curtis's stuff. And for Neghvar. two words, REGENCY ONE. For Rommies you left one the Talon class, which IS the successor to the Rommie BOP. Then there's the designs activision had. with no liscence anyone shouldn't CBS have the rights to them. and one again look to the fans.
For bridge. well bring in the option for boarding NPC ships or them boarding. I remember the trailer of the Klingon fighting in a Galaxy bridge with the Klaxon lights going. I WANT THAT. Heck you can make capture ships worth something. EC exchange worth or maybe dil.
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