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# 11
03-15-2013, 10:49 AM
Prefire... is if you really just absolutely have to make a skittles(multiple damage type) ship.

Damage consoles stack without diminishing returns(modified by base damage, not cumulative); so pick a type and stick with it.
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# 12
03-15-2013, 03:32 PM
What about diminishing returns for console stacking?
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# 13
03-15-2013, 04:04 PM
No DR with tac consoles.

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[7:07] [Combat (Self)] Your Dual Disruptor Banks - Overload II deals 123086 (41096) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Assimilated Carrier.
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# 14
03-15-2013, 04:28 PM
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No DR with tac consoles.
Are you sure about that? I have always read that as you load more, say plasma infusers, you get less of a percentage bonus. You still get an added bonus per console but it is not a direct percentage after the first one.

So if you add 5 Mk XII purple plasma infusers you aren't really getting +150% (5 consoles X 30% ) energy damage.

Or has that changed?

Eisaak

(I'm asking, not arguing)
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# 15
03-15-2013, 04:39 PM
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So if you add 5 Mk XII purple plasma infusers you aren't really getting +150% (5 consoles X 30% ) energy damage.
My understanding is that yes, you are getting a +150% DPS increase under that scenario.

I think where people get confused is that by the time you're adding a fourth and fifth tac console, increasing your base DPS by 30% isn't analogous to a 30% increase in your overall DPS, because the consoles aren't multiplicative with each other.

If they were multiplicative, then it wouldn't be a +150% increase, it would be approximately a +270% increase in DPS.
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# 16
03-15-2013, 04:43 PM
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What about diminishing returns for console stacking?
Quote:
Originally Posted by eisaakaz View Post
Are you sure about that? I have always read that as you load more, say plasma infusers, you get less of a percentage bonus. You still get an added bonus per console but it is not a direct percentage after the first one.

So if you add 5 Mk XII purple plasma infusers you aren't really getting +150% (5 consoles X 30% ) energy damage.

Or has that changed?

Eisaak

(I'm asking, not arguing)
100% sure.
Tac consoles work against the weapons base damage. Each adds the exact same amount of that base damage to your total damage. Provided they have the same bonus percentage of course.

-= ISE: 12:19 -=- CSE 12:41 -=- KASE 11:59 -=- HSe 8:06 total =-
-= KAGE 5:43 =-
[7:07] [Combat (Self)] Your Dual Disruptor Banks - Overload II deals 123086 (41096) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Assimilated Carrier.
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# 17
03-15-2013, 04:46 PM
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100% sure.
Tac consoles work against the weapons base damage. Each adds the exact same amount of that base damage to your total damage. Provided they have the same bonus percentage of course.

Very cool, thank you. I have always loaded out all Tac spots with the weapon specific boost anyway but I always thought I got a little less with each one.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Eisaak
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# 18
03-15-2013, 04:53 PM
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What about diminishing returns for console stacking?
If you're worried about that, you should try equipping 4 EPS Flow Regulators in your Engi slots.

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# 19
03-15-2013, 10:21 PM
Cryptic really screwed up the tac consoles, making the generic ones pointless. I have no idea why they think then need to be less powerful.

Now if identical tac consoles didn't stack at 100% I could see a point but...
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have stuff to rant about on the forums!

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