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Career Officer
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# 21
03-18-2013, 01:31 PM
KDF needs work, but Cryptic won't solved it.
That train has long passed. They will throw us the casual bone and tell us live with it, for example the redesigned tutorial. Cryptic is a too small company to devote ressources away from it's primary Faction, regretably. And when I see that Neverwinter will be their next big thing I know where the most Dev power goes.
Commander
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# 22
03-18-2013, 01:45 PM
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Dude, I hate to break it to you, but Cryptic isn't the US government. The first amendment doesn't extend to private webforums, it's only to protect individuals against government censorship. The PWE forums are private property, and none of us has a right to post here.
Nope. Freedom of speech is guaranteed by law, provided it is not offensive or harassing in nature. Quoting someone is not a valid reason to 'warn' someone. Such an act is highly suspicious as to its real intent. To say nothing of the fact it can be viewed as harassment by various consumer protection laws. Customers have rights

The point is, its not ok to be doing things like that to anyone, especially when they are your customers. Thats the kind of thing companies get in trouble for. Intimidation tactics like that to shut people up are a big no-no

and by the way, cryptic doesn't own this forum, its licensed property from another company, and the internet is public. Even if they did, there are still rules about how you are allowed to treat customers

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If you are going about content, a mission takes about a month of Cryptic time according to TacoFangs
so by that logic it took what? 60 months (you know, about 5 years) to create the missions that are currently in the game? I don't think so
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# 23
03-18-2013, 02:19 PM
Yes, customers have rights and there are laws to protect them, as well as protect business owners.

However, the first amendment does not apply to these forums. This is private ground, not public place... while subject to some laws, these forums do not fall under the freedom of speech... It is as much as you cannot distribute political pamphlets or hold speech contrary to the rules of a grocery store or a shopping mall. Doing so and they have the right to ask you out or prosecute you for trespassing on private property.

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# 24
03-18-2013, 03:13 PM
At this point I don't think there are many KDF players who would believe certain members of the dev team who shall go unnamed if they proclaimed loudly that water is wet. Frankly they only have themselves to blame.
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# 25
03-18-2013, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lazarus51166 View Post
Nope. Freedom of speech is guaranteed by law, provided it is not offensive or harassing in nature.
Wrong, it doesnt extend to private forums.


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and by the way, cryptic doesn't own this forum, its licensed property from another company, and the internet is public. Even if they did, there are still rules about how you are allowed to treat customers
Wrong again, they licensed the software that the forums run but such licenses dont generally attempt to censor or force anything on the licensee in terms of what rules are enforced on the forum TOS.

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so by that logic it took what? 60 months (you know, about 5 years) to create the missions that are currently in the game? I don't think so
Its irrelevant how long it took, I take his word or of any Cryptic staff over how things are done at their place of work over some random guy on the Internet.

Also considering how assents are leaked occasional that timeframe is not wrong either, the D'deridex Defender ended up on the spawn list weeks before the Vault Event gone live, also more recently we had Wells ships spawning in the Azure Rescue also well before the Temporal Ambassador come out.

What I dont think so is you going around telling someone that said "it takes us about a month to make a mission" that actually WORKS on it and pretty much say "well, I know better".

Everyone here knows STO issue is the small team, its not a question of taking a month ... its a question of the team SIZE only being able to do 1-2 missions at the same time, companies with larger staff of course can make more, not because they are "faster" but because in the same time they can work on 7-10 missions.

I could go on ... stuff on maps is not that hard, STO on the other hand doesnt work on such type of missions because the closest to typical MMO area are the adventure zones that can just add new quests by spawning NPCs and work on the drop spawns but STO every mission very much works as a DUNGEON that is a very different beast.

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# 26
03-19-2013, 03:42 AM
"let them die"
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# 27
03-19-2013, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by probe1171 View Post
"let them die"
How about you calm down... please.
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# 28
03-19-2013, 07:25 AM
To be honest... do you think Cryptic even checks these threads for KDF? They probally heard too so much... they probally ignore it anyways. Evenn with other KDF threads... Do they?

(Well I need this post to make sense with next.)
R'tolves Will Spread Thier Peace and Will Prevail Over the Hostiles Who Dare Hurt Such A Isolationist Consitutional Monarchy!


Last edited by blagorm; 03-23-2013 at 10:18 AM.
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# 29
03-19-2013, 08:15 AM
I can guarantee you that if not any other devs., at least BranFlakes reads and checks out the KDF forums on regular basis. This I'm sure of.
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# 30
03-19-2013, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by shpoks View Post
I can guarantee you that if not any other devs., at least BranFlakes reads and checks out the KDF forums on regular basis. This I'm sure of.
That is good atleast


EDIT: I sure do, as do other Devs -Brandon
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Last edited by pwebranflakes; 03-19-2013 at 10:08 AM.
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