Not interested to be honest.

I don't know why STO players are complaining besides just to complain for the sake of it.


This is clearly not for you but for a Neverwinter to come here and play STO.


If you need a T1 starter ship there are 2 in the c store already, and one in steam that also gets you a VA version.....clearly this deal is not ment for existing STO players.

Well for those that drop $200 on NW because they like NW then that's a swell deal - how about those of us that already dropped $200 on a STO LTS - any freebies in NW for us?

Of course not.

Now this makes alot of sense, that would have been nice.

No one with any sense that plays any current PWE game will buy the HotN pack just for the added benefit to their current game. This deal is strictly for those that play Neverwinter. Therefore we are obligated to laugh at anyone that purchased this pack and doesn't plan on playing Neverwinter. Whether it is worth $200 is purely personal. In other words, we are not the target for this pack. The complaints about this pack is a complete waste of time. I don't need to know that you will never get this pack or play Neverwinter. PWE has decided to give more incentive to people that purchase this pack and I will be happy for those that have and will purchase this pack.

My only problem with this pack is that it has more stuff than our lifetime subscription. The main incentive of the lifetime subscription is meaningless and so what if we get all the veteran rewards and an exclusive race.

Wow, just wow. To borrow a term from SW: "The Force is weak in this one"....

Really Cryptic?? A slap in the face for the current STO players. Why would any sane STO player spend 200 space bucks on a starter pack? My bet is that there won't be many takers on this offer amongst the STO player base.

Sure, the starter pack is kinda sorta interesting, but should not this Andorian starter pack have been included with, oh I dont know.... the Andorian Kumari 3 ship pack allready IN the game??

Hope you will offer this Andorian starter pack to those of us not interested in any other Cryptic game than STO (and to a small degree for me CO) in the near future...

As some one said above, if you offer the Andorian starter pack in the C-Store for everyone to get, you have a sale right here...

Actually, no - the HotN pack is a terrible deal since it omits the one thing of any real worth in STO's LTS - the monthly stipend.

Yes, you get a nifty, unique mount and companion but you can buy those anyway through the C-Store - yes, you get some 'founder' shinies to show you ponied up the dough but other than that, there's nothing of any consequence (it's not even an 'exclusive' race as Drow will be in the game anyway - you get a unique trait and some tattoos - whoop).

And the 750,000 'Astral Diamonds' is a bad joke since a nice mount will cost you 2,000,000.

The players on the NW forums that have already bought into this are die-hard Neverwinter/D&D fans and/or want to show their support for the game/Cryptic. I hope they feel they've gotten value for their money (and I suppose the extras for other PWE games does add to that), but in my opinion, without a stipend, that $200 pack is worth exactly zero.

So you would pay $200 for a ship skin even though this deal is ment for players in another game?



Cryptic quick start selling ship skins again for $200.

I completely agree, and well said.

I'm not mad that PWE is trying to use some corporate synergy and hype up Neverwinter. It makes sense really.

But the Neverwinter pack doesn't seem like its worth 200 bucks. Even with the other stuff they are throwing in. Maybe if there was a monthly stipend it would eventually pay for its self but the pack is pretty lackluster to me over all.

And don't worry folks, I'm sure the T5 version of this ship will hit the lobi/lockbox/Cstore eventually. Anyone remember the kerfuffle over the Mirror universe costumes?