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# 91
03-20-2013, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kingdoxy View Post

And don't worry folks, I'm sure the T5 version of this ship will hit the lobi/lockbox/Cstore eventually. Anyone remember the kerfuffle over the Mirror universe costumes?
ummmm, there are 3 versions of this ship at T5 already in the store.
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# 92
03-20-2013, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
ummmm, there are 3 versions of this ship at T5 already in the store.
I would say people who brought those Andorian Escorts should be a bit ... annoyed having it given away as "free items" to others.

That is if it wasnt made T1 and apparently lacking the unique bridge, but still ... rather cheeky.
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# 93
03-20-2013, 01:18 PM
I bought an LTS for STO back when it was a subscription-only game, and broke even (600-Day Vet) before F2P. And even since F2P started, I've been earning a monthly stipend. I also bought an LTS for CO (which includes it's own stipend), and I play that from time-to-time when I want a break from STO. Still, STO is my favorite of the two... My "main" game.

Overall I enjoy playing STO/CO. I have some complaints, and I no longer blindly purchase "everything" in order to "support" the game, as I do not fully trust I'll get my "investment's worth" out of Cryptic. Still, I do buy things from time-to-time (usually only on sale).

When Neverwinter Beta was announced, I took a look at it, and I'm like... "Meh." I even considered buying this Founder's Pack, but it's not even an LTS, despite being priced as one. Nope. NW is all F2P. There's no stipend for Founders, and after I bought all the promo/intro stuff I bought for STO, 90% of which my characters no longer use, I expect most of the fluff in that FP to be useless after a few hours play. Certainly not worth $200.

That, and I don't really have time/money for another game. Especially not one where I'll have to "pay for everything" starting at the ground floor - In STO, I'm well established, and it's easy to pick and choose what, if anything, to spend "extra" cash on. If I start NW, I wouldn't have years of previous grind and purchases to prop me up.

As for the "Free" Andorian Starter Pack. Heh. I already bought that Starter Pack-part back when it was originally released, I certainly don't need another. Likewise, I don't need another Lt-level ship, I'll throw away after minutes of play. I've already got the Connie, NX-01, and that Light Sci Ship (can't think of it's name) to choose from when starting a new toon.

See? Already established, and "twice bitten, thrice shy". So, still, no thanks.

I tried to see it from the non-STO player point of view, that you're just trying to get a new NW player to also sample STO, and maybe hook a few new players to both games. I suppose PW adding STO into the kitchen sink of offers with the FP purchase may help boost sales, but I'd feel bad for a player who tried STO only to find they would no longer use any of the free gear after a couple of hours. At least I'd've thrown in a special Andorian Account-wide BOff unlock with a special trait that might still be worthwhile when they get to end game (nothing too OP, but something on par with the Borg BO's Efficient, Romulan BO Crit Buff, or like the "Veteran" BOff, PhotoDoc, Android, etc. etc.), or some other end-game worthy item. >shrug<

P.S. I wonder too, why no CO bonus? I'd take that as a sad sign for Champs.

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# 94
03-20-2013, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jengoz View Post
And I am not going to pay $200 for a T3 ship.


Beers,

Jengoz =/
its a LT. ship which is a T1 not T3
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# 95
03-20-2013, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by weylandjuarez View Post
Well for those that drop $200 on NW because they like NW then that's a swell deal - how about those of us that already dropped $200 on a STO LTS - any freebies in NW for us?

Of course not.

Hey, we had a "more to come..." tag for a very long time ;p
Unfortunately this materialized as instant veteran-rewards.
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# 96
03-20-2013, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
Nothing for Champs, I see...
Indeed, rather odd Cryptic didn't include anything for their other game but not surprising considering the very limited resources the game is receiving.
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# 97
03-20-2013, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by valenn1 View Post
Hey, we had a "more to come..." tag for a very long time ;p
Unfortunately this materialized as instant veteran-rewards.
Well, to be fair, my LTS was a good deal (at the time) - I bought it during Beta to support the Devs and because I hoped it'd eventually pay for itself (which it did) - would I buy one now? No. Even with all the Vet Rewards and the stipend, I don't think it's worth $200.

It'd be nice if the 'generosity' wasn't only about selling NW HotN packs though - why not give Champs and STO LTS/subscribers a little incentive to check out NW?

Not that I expect that, Cryptic's motives are shamelessly transparent these days.
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# 98
03-20-2013, 01:46 PM
Is it April the first already,if they can't see how much of a "bargain" this is.

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# 99
03-20-2013, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by weylandjuarez View Post
And the 750,000 'Astral Diamonds' is a bad joke since a nice mount will cost you 2,000,000.
Actually they just updated it so that you get 2 million Astral Diamonds with the HotN pack instead of 750,000.
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# 100
03-20-2013, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lordhavelock View Post
P.S. I wonder too, why no CO bonus? I'd take that as a sad sign for Champs.
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Originally Posted by sparhawk View Post
Indeed, rather odd Cryptic didn't include anything for their other game but not surprising considering the very limited resources the game is receiving.
Did some snooping on the CO side, found a response as to why there isn't an item.

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Originally Posted by trailturtle View Post
Hell, no need to be morbid. We built an item out for this, but tech issues have prevented it from being included. We're working to get it added after the fact, but that may not be possible -- if not, we'll have a new item in reserve that we can make available in other means.
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/sho...1&postcount=20

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