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# 431
03-20-2013, 07:16 PM
I appreciate that I was invited back for the next Beta weekend. I hadn't expected that.
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# 432
03-21-2013, 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveyny View Post
Anyone planning on playing this coming weekend?
I assume you mean Neverwinter?

How can I? I still haven't been ****ing invited yet...

All I've received is ADVERTISING asking me to buy Founder Packs. As far as I'm concerned, I was promised Beta access as a Lifer perk and it STILL hasn't been delivered. Yeah, I'm kinda' pissed about this whole NW Beta debacle. Over-promised and under-delivered.

Better not be invited for ONLY *this* weekend, since I'm planning on being out of town a good portion of it on a trip that's been planned for months. And since, as I now go back and read the original post with an update with a link to NW Beta timelines, it seems like Beta Weekend starts tomorrow and I haven't received a key yet (one would ASSUME they'd remind / notify you in advance??), I'm probably NOT being invited? Hell if I know at this point... =o\ Moreover, now that I look even closer, there was a Beta weekend on March 8-10 and I never got an invite to that one either. WTH??

Is there something we have to *DO* to get a key sent to us, or if it simply supposed to be e-mailed out to Lifers automatically? And, if so, WHEN? The day of? That's like zero warning, especially if you don't know about it and/or haven't visited this thread, etc. One could be forgiven for thinking that if that's the case, many people who would have otherwise played Beta Weekend might MISS the e-mail if they're off doing other things, if they get no advance warning.

Just seems to me like communication and execution on this thing has been kinda' slipshod.

The original post says:
Quote:
"We are happy to announce that all Star Trek Online Lifetime Subscribers will be gaining access to the Neverwinter Closed Beta test."
The "Read More" link says (more ambiguously):
Quote:
"When this testing phase begins, invites will be doled out to Lifetime Subscribers over the course of the test."
Not exactly very specific on what and when and who. Pretty damned vague. Kinda a "if we feel like it maybe you'll get to play for an hour or two at our whim." As opposed to "Lifers get to play. Period."

And the Neverwinter thread says:
Quote:
"One way to get guaranteed access is by purchasing a Neverwinter Founder's Pack."
Wha-aa?? No... In the opening thread, you said:

Quote:
"...all Star Trek Online Lifetime Subscribers will be gaining access to the Neverwinter Closed Beta test"
Nothing about having to "buy" anything in order to be "guaranteed" to get a chance to play.

Seems like the deal keeps getting worse, and more vague, on every subsequent thread. =o\

Been waitin' like 9 Mos to get to play. STILL waitin'... Seems like maybe next time PWE should only "announce" that folks will get to play WHEN THEY'RE READY to open the Beta testing. Making people wait 9 mos seems kinda' rude. Maybe next time, let people know like 1-2 mos beforehand, not 3/4 of a year? The suspense is killin' us. Especially when the time rolls around and we're still not getting invites.

~MG

Last edited by mgmirkin426; 03-21-2013 at 01:21 PM.
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# 433
03-21-2013, 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgmirkin426 View Post
I assume you mean Neverwinter?

How can I? I still haven't been ****ing invited yet...
They didn't send out invites for STO and CO lifers. Lifer accounts were automatically granted access to the second beta weekend. Just download Neverwinter and you can access the third beta weekend when it starts tomorrow afternoon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
Yep! Just found out that STO lifers can now download the client and should gain access automatically when the weekend starts -- no key required. More information should be sent in an email before the weekend starts, I believe.

Cheers,

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# 434
03-21-2013, 01:51 PM
I'll take a second look and that will be it. I managed to get a toon up to level 16 last time and I just don't care for the game. The only way I will get any benifit from this in the long run is if they give out a neverwinter tribble for testing. I can't see them doing that.
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# 435
03-21-2013, 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgmirkin426 View Post
I assume you mean Neverwinter?

How can I? I still haven't been ****ing invited yet...

All I've received is ADVERTISING asking me to buy Founder Packs. As far as I'm concerned, I was promised Beta access as a Lifer perk and it STILL hasn't been delivered. Yeah, I'm kinda' pissed about this whole NW Beta debacle. Over-promised and under-delivered.

Better not be invited for ONLY *this* weekend, since I'm planning on being out of town a good portion of it on a trip that's been planned for months. And since, as I now go back and read the original post with an update with a link to NW Beta timelines, it seems like Beta Weekend starts tomorrow and I haven't received a key yet (one would ASSUME they'd remind / notify you in advance??), I'm probably NOT being invited? Hell if I know at this point... =o\ Moreover, now that I look even closer, there was a Beta weekend on March 8-10 and I never got an invite to that one either. WTH??

Is there something we have to *DO* to get a key sent to us, or if it simply supposed to be e-mailed out to Lifers automatically? And, if so, WHEN? The day of? That's like zero warning, especially if you don't know about it and/or haven't visited this thread, etc. One could be forgiven for thinking that if that's the case, many people who would have otherwise played Beta Weekend might MISS the e-mail if they're off doing other things, if they get no advance warning.

Just seems to me like communication and execution on this thing has been kinda' slipshod.

The original post says:


The "Read More" link says (more ambiguously):


Not exactly very specific on what and when and who. Pretty damned vague. Kinda a "if we feel like it maybe you'll get to play for an hour or two at our whim." As opposed to "Lifers get to play. Period."

And the Neverwinter thread says:


Wha-aa?? No... In the opening thread, you said:



Nothing about having to "buy" anything in order to be "guaranteed" to get a chance to play.

Seems like the deal keeps getting worse, and more vague, on every subsequent thread. =o\

Been waitin' like 9 Mos to get to play. STILL waitin'... Seems like maybe next time PWE should only "announce" that folks will get to play WHEN THEY'RE READY to open the Beta testing. Making people wait 9 mos seems kinda' rude. Maybe next time, let people know like 1-2 mos beforehand, not 3/4 of a year? The suspense is killin' us. Especially when the time rolls around and we're still not getting invites.

~MG
You're grasping at straws, the email I got pretty much said "Come play all weekend".... And yes it was talking about this weekend....
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# 436
03-21-2013, 04:58 PM
HA! as if I am going to go an play NW now that we have a Romulan Faction coming Great timing for that announcement to keep your players
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# 437
03-21-2013, 07:06 PM
Looks like it's all I'll be playing, since I can't log in to STO, after the nightmarish task of linking accounts, changing email for new PW account, finding my characters not there when I logged in, changing the password, and having it STILL not accept it. Got a support ticket in, but I'm pretty ticked off, because it's a lifetime account. The world is NOT "perfect".
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# 438
03-22-2013, 01:06 AM
That tears it...

PWE has teamed up with destructoid to hand our random keys to Beta... BEFORE they've even given all the Lifers here their own Beta keys?? WTF?

Yo're giving away RANDOM KEYS to RANDOM INTERNET USERS *before* you've given keys to your own loyal subscribers?

This makes me irate...

I've contributed significant coin to his game. You've promised access to NW beta, and not delivered, and now I come to find out any random schmuck can get into the game BEFORE your loyal fanbase who's SHELLED OUT and been loyal to he game(s)?

http://www.destructoid.com/here-are-...--249271.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/redeem_code.phtml

Ohh Hell no... Even mmorpg is getting a massive handout of keys?

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/l...Weekend-3-Keys

We're getting shafted, folks. SHAF-TED...

Yeah, I'm pretty pissed. And I'm taking one of those keys and using it. Tough if you don't like it. Been waiting 9 mos. Not waiting for PWE to get its freakin' act together.

Anyone else want a key? There you go. Need a Destructoid login (simple if you have Facebook and let them authenticate you that way). Other'n that it's just a simple click of the button. No more waiting...

I'm assuming the keys are legit, since Destructoid says they partnered with PWE for them (5000 of them). Probably more than the # of LIFERS in STO / Champions combined? And what, PWE couldn't simply mass mail us keys last beta weekend or this weekend, when STO / Champions "lifers" were supposed to be "eligible"?

I'm done. [/rant]

Long and short of it: I feel short-changed by Cryptic / PWE on this one. They promised, they failed to deliver and now I find that random internet users get more "consideration" than those contributing monetarily to this game.

NOT COOL PWE / CRYPTIC. NOT COOL.

Last edited by mgmirkin426; 03-22-2013 at 01:08 AM.
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# 439
03-22-2013, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by zulisvel View Post
They didn't send out invites for STO and CO lifers. Lifer accounts were automatically granted access to the second beta weekend. Just download Neverwinter and you can access the third beta weekend when it starts tomorrow afternoon.
Okay, well, if that be so, then they really need to SAY THAT, y'know SOMEWHERE PROMINENT. Maybe update the OP to read "you don't need an access key, just download the client and login with your PWE account; if you're a lifer or meet one of the other criteria, it'll just work."?

Instead, it's been left for people to fumble around in the dark without a damn clue as to what's going on. Hence my peevish comments about poor communication / execution.

Likewise, if I could have logged in last Beta weekend, PWE should have sent me an e-mail letting me know it was coming up, that I was eligible and the steps to perform in order to participate.

NOTHING. NOT A THING. And the links in the OP still seem to indicate the need for "invites" of some sort. If that's not the case, then the OP or some other prominent resource on the subject needs to be updated with ACCURATE up-to-date information. Had I been kept apprised of my eligibility or reminded that a beta weekend was impending and given the resources / instruction to participate, I'd have been there with bells on.

Kinda' un-thrilled about the execution. If I can in fact log in tomorrow afternoon, then cool. Yay! Finally. Would have been nice to know this sooner, in some formal-ish way. But the last information I had several months ago was basically along the lines of "you'll eventually get an invite, if you're selected." So, I've been waiting and waiting for an invite that hasn't ever come. *Sigh*

Now it seems like the whole "invite" thing was a red herring, of sorts? Gre-eeat!

P.S. Anyway, if so, ignore my immediately previous post, I guess? Though, at the time my perception seemed well-enough founded, considering it seems like any Joe Schmo off the street can now join Closed Beta with a mmorpg or Destructoid key, so it's not much of a "perk" anymore. =o\ Silly PWE.

Last edited by mgmirkin426; 03-22-2013 at 01:31 AM.
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# 440
03-22-2013, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by markhawkman View Post
You're grasping at straws, the email I got pretty much said "Come play all weekend".... And yes it was talking about this weekend....
Well, I don't know what e-mail YOU got... Clearly I didn't get the same e-mail, and if I did, I certainly didn't interpret it the same way.

I got precisely one e-mail yesterday:

Quote:
CURE YOUR MARCH MADNESS
GET YOUR DOSE OF NEVERWINTER THIS WEEKEND.
And I'll admit that on first reading it I was excited that MAYBE I'd get to play this weekend. However, on clicking through the link, the only place it took me was this page:

http://nw.perfectworld.com/founderspack

Hawking "Founders Packs," asking me to PAY TO PLAY, essentially. Hardly the gratis "Lifer Perk" I was promised. So, you'll have to pardon me if I completely IGNORED IT as ADVERTISING rubbish.

That said, I poked around the Neverwinter site trying to figure out how to gain access to Beta. The most obvious option was the giant button saying "Access Beta." I know you're thinking "Well, duh!" ('Cause that's what I was thinking too...)

However, on clicking that, you get nothing but a screen asking you to provide an access key. It says nothing whatever about STO / Champions lifers getting free access and simply reinforces the notion proffered in the OP and subsequent links that one needs an "invite" with a "Beta key" in order to access NW. A reasonable assumption, given the only available evidence via that line of investigation.

So, I'd say I'm hardly "grasping at straws" when leveling a legitimate complaint about the general poor execution and lack of adequate communication regarding the Beta weekends and STO perks.

How 'bout you?

For my part, I would very much have liked a simple update somewhere prominent saying "Okay lifers, here are the extraordinarily stupidly simple steps for downloading and playing NW Beta on these dates. No 'invite'/'key' required, as we had implied earlier. We're more technologically savvy than that." *provide link* *provide basic instructions* Done. But no...
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