Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 321
03-24-2013, 07:47 AM
Most of my laters builds are turret beam arrays with a dual beam. and I'm fine. top counter drain from beam overload i use main EP to weapons. I still do damage. the truth of the matter is THIS THREAD IS BS
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 322
03-24-2013, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by admiralq1732 View Post
Most of my laters builds are turret beam arrays with a dual beam. and I'm fine. top counter drain from beam overload i use main EP to weapons. I still do damage. the truth of the matter is THIS THREAD IS BS
Troll troll troll.

Even without a basic understanding of the basic mechanics it is pretty apparent that beams have issues. I suppose you also believe FAW is working as intended too.

Glad you're fine. That makes well only you.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 232
# 323
03-24-2013, 09:15 AM
stop whining, get over it, adapt. so tired of these complaints
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# 324
03-24-2013, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ocp001 View Post
Troll troll troll.

Even without a basic understanding of the basic mechanics it is pretty apparent that beams have issues. I suppose you also believe FAW is working as intended too.

Glad you're fine. That makes well only you.
U ARE NOT AN ESCORT. you are a support ship, dont expect to top the charts or vape players who know how to counter beams. heck i can kill bad escorts in my voquv.

the fundemental problem with these threads is that the people complaining dont understand theyre role. they want to vape everything in sight because theyre on screen heroes did with beams. not gonna happen. get over it. or role something that packs a punch. trust me i shelved my eng a long time ago.
Captain
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 325
03-24-2013, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by beefsupreme79 View Post
U ARE NOT AN ESCORT. you are a support ship, dont expect to top the charts or vape players who know how to counter beams. heck i can kill bad escorts in my voquv.

the fundemental problem with these threads is that the people complaining dont understand theyre role. they want to vape everything in sight because theyre on screen heroes did with beams. not gonna happen. get over it. or role something that packs a punch. trust me i shelved my eng a long time ago.
nope.
its people coming in trying to force other players play second rate 'roles' just to satisfy their ego's.
all based on the idea that forcing those players into the obsolete trinity system, that is broken beyond the bounds of credulity in sto anyway is somehow anything other than an outdated, bad idea that does not and did not work here anyway.

or out of the 10% of the playerbase that pvp's, and play cruiser, you are going to talk about the 10% of cruisers that can tank and do nothing else to prove your point about roles?
as it turns out, an intrepid would lose a fight with a connie.
and thats canon.
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Commander
Join Date: Jan 2013
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# 326
03-24-2013, 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beefsupreme79 View Post
U ARE NOT AN ESCORT. you are a support ship, dont expect to top the charts or vape players who know how to counter beams. heck i can kill bad escorts in my voquv.

the fundemental problem with these threads is that the people complaining dont understand theyre role. they want to vape everything in sight because theyre on screen heroes did with beams. not gonna happen. get over it. or role something that packs a punch. trust me i shelved my eng a long time ago.
Tells others to "know their role", and yet shelved his Engineering cap.

Perhaps you should consider what the role of Engineering actually is?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 327
03-24-2013, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by beefsupreme79 View Post
U ARE NOT AN ESCORT. you are a support ship, dont expect to top the charts or vape players who know how to counter beams. heck i can kill bad escorts in my voquv.
PVP is fundamentally broken and PVP players are in a small minority. So any and all points about "well, in PVP things are like this" are irrelevant and will be ignored.

And "Supporting" other players and nothing else, i.e. being a healbot, is boring, thankless, and unnecessary. Every ship in a team needs to be doing good damage or they are slowing the team down. If you want roles, the role of cruisers is to achieve DPS by merit of never retreating while the role of escorts is to achieve DPS by hit and run tactics and massive alpha strikes.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 328
03-24-2013, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by johnsteward View Post
Cannon cruisers....:

-are much more fun
-are much easier to use
-do basically the same dmg or about the same sometimes more depending on your flight style
-avoid this stupid broadsiding stuff which is totally not canon
-are much cheaper if you have no access to fleet weapons
-with scatter volley and rapid fire are better than fire at will. They allow you to really focus the targets you want and dont hit still healed gates and transformers normally and give you aggro and stuff


Believe me you'll like your cruiser much more with a cannon build. Its sad because i really like the faw lightshow but in the end its not really effective. Just switch to cannons until cryptic actually fixed the beam situation.
I hate my cannon cruiser. It's boring. It's dull. It's not the pretty pew pew of the beam one. Yes, it can focus it's damage more, yes it's cheaper (due to single cannons being pathetic in this game), but overall, it's not a better ship.

Beams are much better at grabbing attention and keeping it, AND you can aggro whole groups and then let your team pick them off one by one. With cannons, not so easy.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
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# 329
03-24-2013, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
I hate my cannon cruiser. It's boring. It's dull. It's not the pretty pew pew of the beam one. Yes, it can focus it's damage more, yes it's cheaper (due to single cannons being pathetic in this game), but overall, it's not a better ship.

Beams are much better at grabbing attention and keeping it, AND you can aggro whole groups and then let your team pick them off one by one. With cannons, not so easy.
Hmm, my own KDF focuses on carriers but don't you have a KDF battlecruiser too? How would you compare it to Fed cannon cruisers? What would you think of fed space whales going the route of KDF battlecruisers?
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# 330
03-24-2013, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
Hmm, my own KDF focuses on carriers but don't you have a KDF battlecruiser too? How would you compare it to Fed cannon cruisers? What would you think of fed space whales going the route of KDF battlecruisers?
My Tor'kaht is a god in PvE. And does well in PvP too. Comparing my KDF BC to a fed cannon cruiser is like comparing a dinghy to a Battleship. There is no comparison. If it came down to my Tor'kaht vs my Imperial, even my Imperial running cannons (which I would never dishonor her by doing so), my Tor'kaht would win very easily. Even if my Imperial had DHCs it would not be able to utilize them as well as my Tor'kaht. To say nothing of my Odyssey.

But it's a goes without saying when talking about the vast superiority that KDF battlecruisers have over Fed cruisers. It's almost not worth even trying to compare them. KDF battlecruisers are just that much better.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
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