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# 1821
03-23-2013, 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderhawk101 View Post
lol, I can pretty much manage that on Normal with my Tac/Cruiser setups, but on Elite I'd need some extra firepower.
Even funnier part: it wasn't a fleet cruiser, AND it was an Engi. But he was also running single cannons, turrets, KCB, and a hyper plasma.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
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# 1822
03-23-2013, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
Even funnier part: it wasn't a fleet cruiser, AND it was an Engi. But he was also running single cannons, turrets, KCB, and a hyper plasma.
Okay, I admit, NOW I'm impressed. Than again, turrets and Single Cannons do tend to get crapped on a little exessivly sometimes. I admit I once tried using a full turret build just to see how it did, was kinda neat to be this 'omni-directional pulse hose' but I still kinda prefer to have to manuver a little even in a big ship.
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# 1823
03-23-2013, 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderhawk101 View Post
Okay, I admit, NOW I'm impressed. Than again, turrets and Single Cannons do tend to get crapped on a little exessivly sometimes. I admit I once tried using a full turret build just to see how it did, was kinda neat to be this 'omni-directional pulse hose' but I still kinda prefer to have to manuver a little even in a big ship.
Was a VA excelsior. Single cannons + turrets + KCB + hyper plasma. Works very well, tried it, didn't like it, went back to beams + torps.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
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# 1824 IKS Lollygag
03-24-2013, 12:04 PM
There I was....

CSN

Pugged in and said 'HI'

One responce.

The mission went fine except for one Klink ship.

We'll call him IKS Lollygag.

He sat at the Kang, never fired a shot.

Then he slowly came over to the cube, never fired a shot.

The he died.

Then he came back over to the cube where I saw him fire a couple little torps, then nothing.

Then he floats over to the next cube, dies, never fired a shot.

Then he's off 49k away just setting there.

Then he comes back to cube three, I see a couple little disruptor beams pop out, then nothing.

He dies again.

Then the carrier shows up and he comes in, fires off a tractor beam.

The nothing. He's just floating around slowly.

He dies again.

Mission over.

I type, 'Hey IKS Lollygag. Put some weapons on that boat.'

His accolade is just over 1000.

How quaint.
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# 1825
03-24-2013, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
Irony: I've seen a cruiser that couldn't kill a single probe. But in the same STF there was a cruiser that not only could clear the probes on his side, but also clear the gens and transformer on one side.
I did a Khitomer Vortex elite the other day where an Armitage couldn't kill probes. Truly sad.
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# 1826
03-24-2013, 04:26 PM
Maybe connection problems.
Or something else to do.

Ok. My ones.

The first is my first cure elite. And it shows how ignorant "elite" players can be.
Ok, back then i had a trident with jem set, jem arrays, plasma from the distore in front, distoreplasmamines in the back and polaronturrets.
Not that good but not that bad either. The bofflayout was semigood. It is a long time ago, but i realy remember it...

Ok, came in and i was typing something like "hi, i did cure before but this is my first elite, something i should know? hints?"
Yeah - complete silence. So i did as i have learnd. Kill the probes, go with the other. At the Kang was just one lonly cruiser who had problems and i was the only one who broke off everytime to help and who helpd to heal the kang. While the "fancy" escortpilots and an other cruiser where even ignoring the own bops on the cube they where on.
I died one or 2 times and, other then the "attackgroup" i was repairing my ship.

The probes, the neggi and the raptor on the center where cleared and the right was clean. And someone shooted at it. So i go over there to help. I didn't realize, that it was a supportship you can call when realy damaged. The cube was at 2%.
So i startet shooting and after a few shoots the cube explode.

Just a few secs later (not even the opt time was run out) in the chat "thank [Charakter Name] for failing", some bad words and then 2 escorts warped out. One of them was the often dying escort that would be my first suspect of calling the support.

Before they left i only was able to shout, that i asked for advice. With 3 we where not able to save the kang.



Now the fun thing starts. Some days later, cure elite. Center probes, right probes, right cube (I was just AAAA).
But i did as i was told and helped out on the left and the cruisers (warpplasma) and i slowed the raptors down and none reached the kang. Rest was a cakewalk and even the opt was reached...

No comment on that...


But in the last weeks i had some fun too.
The one with the 2 gates (i just can't differ between kit and the other ). I am able to hold all 4 probes without even moving and to take out a cube at the start and help at the small and the big gen that are near the path of the probes.
And i was "supported" bye a multicolor 7 beam 1 quantum Vesta. I have a Vesta with beams too (i want my aux high not drained) so i know what it can do.
He shoot at the small gens and called the cube, without doing real dmg and then he died.
After i killed the cube he was starting to shoot at the big gen but everytime probes comming through the gate (i said to him more then one time, that i don't need help) he came back for "help" using fire at will - and getting killed bye the attracked gate. Realy, i never seen someone getting shooted from the gate (he was realy bad at selfhealing) so often. It was like "fly in and get killed". So we where 4...
On the other big gen (i was at the right gate) finaly a escort appeared, that was like 5min in joining. He startet to shoot one gen, then some min nothing. Then the second, noting, dead, nothing, came back, shooting on the other 2 small gens and then on the big one. Killed from the cube, nothing, came back, killed the gen, killed the cube (i had taken to low health before) then just staying around until looting after donatara. A half afk player. So we where 3.
On the other side, they managed to call both cubes at the same time. And the engi that was on gateduty did a wonderfull job killing the probes and holding his ship togehter against the cube while the escorts where not in the moot for helping. Finaly, after 90s respawn, my friend in the Vesta was helping him. At last he got some shoots and buyed some time for the cruiser - with another death.
And then he "helped" on the other side like he did on my side.
And yeah, the 5km for donatara. The cruiser and I - yes. So she clocked more then one time.


And 2 short ones.
Cure Elite (my old love). 3 escorts, one cruiser and my vesta. Every escort on an other cube. At the end we (they) only took 6 probes down (the cruiser and I had to fight against all bops) and called in 3 neggis and 3 raptors. Short story, under the escortrun of these 6 ships we where unable to protect the Kang from the bops.
Funfact, 2 of the escorts left before the Kang died and took the 1hour (2min later it was down). The cruiser zoomed in to go down fighting, i just stayed away after my 3. death and waited for the boom.

Hive elite.
Started with 3 cruisers (2 of them where tac) and another Vesta. First cruiser zoomed in, using fire at will - 4 taccubes and the escortspheres on the run. And they where focus the fire on one of the taccubes, at last 3 did it. I even said "spheres" but...
2 cruiser left, 2 Catian Carriers came in. And we where killed and we where killed and we where killed. Finaly 3 taccubes and some spheres where camping the spawnpoint for some min. I respawned and i was dead just 2sek later.
When they left i just left. I think for leaving Hive is possible without 1 hour ban for sft.
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# 1827
03-24-2013, 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjokruhlica View Post
I did a Khitomer Vortex elite the other day where an Armitage couldn't kill probes. Truly sad.
That's not 'Truly Sad'.

What's 'Truly Sad' is when you see THREE Armitage all shooting at the same probe and can't kill it.

Now THATS 'Truly Sad' and it happens more often than people think.
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# 1828
03-25-2013, 06:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by resumod View Post
The first is my first cure elite. And it shows how ignorant "elite" players can be.
Ok, back then i had a trident with jem set, jem arrays, plasma from the distore in front, distoreplasmamines in the back and polaronturrets.
Not that good but not that bad either. The bofflayout was semigood. It is a long time ago, but i realy remember it...

Ok, came in and i was typing something like "hi, i did cure before but this is my first elite, something i should know? hints?"
Yeah - complete silence. So i did as i have learnd. Kill the probes, go with the other. At the Kang was just one lonly cruiser who had problems and i was the only one who broke off everytime to help and who helpd to heal the kang. While the "fancy" escortpilots and an other cruiser where even ignoring the own bops on the cube they where on.
I died one or 2 times and, other then the "attackgroup" i was repairing my ship.

The probes, the neggi and the raptor on the center where cleared and the right was clean. And someone shooted at it. So i go over there to help. I didn't realize, that it was a supportship you can call when realy damaged. The cube was at 2%.
So i startet shooting and after a few shoots the cube explode.

Just a few secs later (not even the opt time was run out) in the chat "thank [Charakter Name] for failing", some bad words and then 2 escorts warped out. One of them was the often dying escort that would be my first suspect of calling the support.

Before they left i only was able to shout, that i asked for advice. With 3 we where not able to save the kang.



Now the fun thing starts. Some days later, cure elite. Center probes, right probes, right cube (I was just AAAA).
But i did as i was told and helped out on the left and the cruisers (warpplasma) and i slowed the raptors down and none reached the kang. Rest was a cakewalk and even the opt was reached...

No comment on that...
That is a pretty standard tactic - MRRMLL.
Three ships fly ahead and clear the middle BoPs while the other two go left and right to clear the BoPs from there. Then one of the two joins the other three in the middle.
They clear the middle cube of nanite probes with four ships who also handle the BoPs from the middle cube. The single ship gets the BoPs from the other two cubes left and right.
After clearing the nanites below the middle cube, the four ships proceed to the right cube and clear them of nanites, get the BoPs and finally go for the right cube. The single ship intercepts the BoPs of the middle and left cube in the meantime.
When the right cube explodes, three raptors start from the middle and left cube. Those are dealt with either as a group or with good damage dealers by single ships before they can reach the Kang.
Middle cube goes down, three Negh'vars spawn at the remaining left cube. All five players can deal with them, the nanites and the cube.

The tactic allows some room for groups without a l33t damage build and requires less coordination once everyone knows what needs to be done.

Quote:
And i was "supported" bye a multicolor 7 beam 1 quantum Vesta. I have a Vesta with beams too (i want my aux high not drained) so i know what it can do.
(I think You mean Kithomer and a Vesta can only use 3 front and 3 aft weapons. Why one would choose to use beams on her instead of cannons - I'll never know.)

Quote:
Realy, i never seen someone getting shooted from the gate (he was realy bad at selfhealing) so often. It was like "fly in and get killed".
Gates can cause a LOT of damage if You get in too close and are not exactly below or above them (~3km) or at their side (~7km) or keep Your distance (~9km).
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# 1829
03-25-2013, 08:11 AM
Worst experience yet KASE (Khitomer Vortex).

Sitting in my Odyssey we killed the first cube fast enough. I announced in team chat I would stop the probes on left side. Which is easy duty I can often even stop probes and solo one of the cubes while doing this.

Everything fine so far, but then I noticed no one responded or even felt responsible for stopping the probes on the right side. I typed it in fleet chat, hoping that some of the fast moving escorts would get the hint and stop the probes. Still no response, I abandoned my post on the left side to stop the probes, but it was too late as the probes had nearly reached the gate and half of the first wave went through.

Meanwhile the first transformer got down (I think two of the escorts had themselves killed by a cube), a jem'hadar (I think it was an escort carrier) at least decided to relief me from guarding also the right side so I could at least stop the probes coming from the left gate again. The whole team scattered, some of them getting themselves killed repeatedly against various cubes. When the last transformer on left side died 4 people went for the gate and I was rushing to the right side in an attempt at damage control, even more probes came through the gate and 8/10 went through, when the gate on the left side fell. On right side only one cube was down and both transformers were still standing.

Again the glorious 4 of this STF decided to ignore probes and incoming spheres leaving them all to me, I asked again for help, still no response. 2 Spheres with their damage and plasma fire proved too much to handle so I exploded. I was sure this STF was a failure but then at least the glorious 4 decided to finally stop the probes.

As a result one of them berated me for not being ready for elite if I cannot stop the wave of probes on my own.

At that point I flew 40km away and seriously considered going afk for the rest of the STF while the glorious 4 team got themselves killed by Donatra a few times.

Last edited by ascaladar; 03-25-2013 at 08:18 AM.
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# 1830
03-25-2013, 08:21 AM
My worst experience happened in an IGE.
It all started out fine got a great team and really they were like the best you could wish for but for some reason my game messed up and I was unable to fire or change my weapons and even logging out and back in didn't fix it and if I had been able to shoot we would have owned the optional and just owned the mission in general and I think they may have thought I was a griefer but I simply couldn't fix the problem and the worst part is that as soon as we had left I could start shooting again.
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