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# 11
03-22-2013, 10:07 PM
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Starfleet.
Right.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Soyuz_class

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Bozeman
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# 12
03-22-2013, 10:32 PM
Yes, let's paste the same link twice, that'll show 'em.

But I concede the point, I seem to have gotten that point from the wrong half of the Memory-Alpha article.

If we go by STO rational, it would be some sort of heavier 'light cruiser'.

Anyways, we know that the Bozeman itself underwent a refit, because it was one of the ships fighting the Cube in Insurrection- and if it was as crappy a ship as the lore suggests they probably would have just quietly decommissioned it and given Morgan a Saber class or something.

Anyways, the tier 5 connie issue explicitly doesn't apply to other ships- there's no problem with a Tier 5 D7, and anyways Rademaker has a modernized Miranda variant that could easily be adapted for tier 5. Soyuz as a C-store tier 3 variant would be pretty neat, and I'd love to see the idea of actual 'turret mounts' applied to higher tier ships. Widening the arc on useful weapons like 'dual heavy cannons' or even just torpedoes. Might be a good way for Cryptic to continue to release new stuff without the power creep mandating more five fore weapon slot ships... then eventually six... then seven.... or whatever.
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# 13
03-25-2013, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
they don't look like any guns any federation ship has ever had. its likely that they are some sort of highly focused sensors, and an advancement soon after its launch obsoleted the whole ship. they did mention that class was decommissioned before even the 24th century.
The notes for the episode say they are sensor arrays, so this guy is probably right.

Anyways, I am now imagining this thing as a tier 5 frigate with a hangar bay.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
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