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# 2141
03-26-2013, 12:43 AM

Well, my birthday is in a week, and I think I may treat myself to a new ship for Winston. He is a Tactical, so he would best fit an Escort. Plus those are the only Feddy ships that can equip cannons. The only problem is that I don't which ship to get.

Kumari Pack:
Advantages:
1. From what I have read, the set bonuses seem quite good.
2. I already have 3k Zen, so I only need to put up 20 Euros to get the full set.

Disadvantages:
1. It forces me into a Phaser Build.
2. The upgraded guns cost an insane amount of Dilithium that I cannot get near as quick anymore.


Mobius Destroyer
Advantages:
1. The universal slots allow me to customize the bridge officer crew as I see fit.
2. The set bonuses given by the timeship consoles can very well keep me alive far better than much of anything else Winston has access to at the moment. (0 reputation as of yet.)

Disadvantages:
1. Whether I use 800 Lobi or sell keys, the cost just for this one ship is more Zen spent than the entire Kumari Pack would cost. Yes, I did the math.
2. Highly unlikely that any fleetmates just so happen to have a spare Mobius in their bank that I can buy/trade/beg/steal from them.
2. In addition to that, I would have to shell out even more Zen to get Lobi for the other temporal set consoles.


Fleet Advanced Escort
Advantages:
1. I have wanted the Hephaestus Class version ever since I first saw it last summer.
2. If I buy the Multi-Vector version, the Fleet version will only cost one Module.
3. The assistance given by the Multi-Vector drones can allow a good player to solo a Cube.
4. I already have 3k Zen, so I can just go ahead and get the Multi-Vector, and start saving for a Module.
5. That one Module, I can hopefully buy/trade/beg/steal from a fleetmate.

Disadvantages:
1. It has 3 Tactical officer slots. Sacrificing an Engineer slot would hinder my ability to keep my shields up. As an Escort, the small size makes it heavily dependant on what little hull and shields it has.

I successfully completed a 2-man CSE, ISE, and KASE.
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Last edited by lindaleff; 03-26-2013 at 12:54 AM. Reason: A few things.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 988
# 2142
03-26-2013, 01:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lindaleff View Post

Well, my birthday is in a week, and I think I may treat myself to a new ship for Winston. He is a Tactical, so he would best fit an Escort. Plus those are the only Feddy ships that can equip cannons. The only problem is that I don't which ship to get.

Kumari Pack:
Advantages:
1. From what I have read, the set bonuses seem quite good.
2. I already have 3k Zen, so I only need to put up 20 Euros to get the full set.

Disadvantages:
1. It forces me into a Phaser Build.
2. The upgraded guns cost an insane amount of Dilithium that I cannot get near as quick anymore.


Mobius Destroyer
Advantages:
1. The universal slots allow me to customize the bridge officer crew as I see fit.
2. The set bonuses given by the timeship consoles can very well keep me alive far better than much of anything else Winston has access to at the moment. (0 reputation as of yet.)

Disadvantages:
1. Whether I use 800 Lobi or sell keys, the cost just for this one ship is more Zen spent than the entire Kumari Pack would cost. Yes, I did the math.
2. Highly unlikely that any fleetmates just so happen to have a spare Mobius in their bank that I can buy/trade/beg/steal from them.
2. In addition to that, I would have to shell out even more Zen to get Lobi for the other temporal set consoles.


Fleet Advanced Escort
Advantages:
1. I have wanted the Hephaestus Class version ever since I first saw it last summer.
2. If I buy the Multi-Vector version, the Fleet version will only cost one Module.
3. The assistance given by the Multi-Vector drones can allow a good player to solo a Cube.
4. I already have 3k Zen, so I can just go ahead and get the Multi-Vector, and start saving for a Module.
5. That one Module, I can hopefully buy/trade/beg/steal from a fleetmate.

Disadvantages:
1. It has 3 Tactical officer slots. Sacrificing an Engineer slot would hinder my ability to keep my shields up. As an Escort, the small size makes it heavily dependant on what little hull and shields it has.
I'm not a fan of the Hephaestus, if you use the Prometheus skin go for Fleet Advanced Escort. I don't really like the Kumari. Mobius is okay, but I would go for Prommy...

Personally I am saving up Zen for May, if there's a Scimitar pack I wants it...

PS: Happy Burpday!
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Last edited by loukoc; 03-26-2013 at 01:19 AM.
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# 2143
03-26-2013, 03:12 AM
You don't have to quote the entire post in one long shot. You can pick it apart, and still keep the formatting if you know how. Case in point, have a good look at these ↓.
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Originally Posted by loukoc View Post
I'm not a fan of the Hephaestus.
You no likes? But, it is flat, pointy, looks mean, and it exactly what a cat ship should look like!
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Originally Posted by loukoc View Post
If you use the Prometheus skin go for Fleet Advanced Escort.
I currently use the Mirror version (because of the better bridge officer slots). I spent some time playing around with the designs, but I only found Prometheus to be bulky and disproportioned. And the Phoenix design looks like a flying cloud (). I myself use the Cerberus for everything except the top pylons, which are Prometheus. Me being aeronautics-minded, the sleek and streamlined design of the Cerberus was the only one that looked good to me. Then you have the top pylons......which Cerberus would have sticking straight out. To solve this, the Prometheus pylons keep the nacelles firmly next to the hull. Plus, I find that I really like the staggered look of the top nacelles being farther aft than the bottom nacelles.
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Originally Posted by loukoc View Post
Personally I am saving up Zen for May, if there's a Scimitar pack I wants it...
I guarantee you it will not have the instakill Thalaron gun. () Also, if Cryptic does not give us a cat or dog species, I am not going to be playing Rommy side. I really want a Rommykitty species to correspond with what we have already, and additional bonuses for unlocking all 3 of them, just like we have set bonuses for using things of the same series.
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Originally Posted by loukoc View Post
PS: Happy Burpday!
What? An entire day of eructation?

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Last edited by lindaleff; 03-26-2013 at 03:44 AM. Reason: A few thoughts.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 4,321
# 2144
03-26-2013, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lindaleff View Post
Plus those are the only Feddy ships that can equip cannons.
ehh, wrong! the federation has other types of ships besides escorts that can equip cannons
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[Combat (Self)] Your Kumari Phaser Wing Cannons - Overload deals 128698 (67705) Phaser Damage(Critical) to Borg Bird-of-Prey.
don't mess with the andorians
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Posts: 4,782
# 2145
03-26-2013, 07:43 AM
As an escort captain, I think I can help here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lindaleff View Post

Well, my birthday is in a week, and I think I may treat myself to a new ship for Winston. He is a Tactical, so he would best fit an Escort. Plus those are the only Feddy ships that can equip cannons. The only problem is that I don't which ship to get.


Kumari Pack:
Advantages:
1. From what I have read, the set bonuses seem quite good.
2. I already have 3k Zen, so I only need to put up 20 Euros to get the full set.

Disadvantages:
1. It forces me into a Phaser Build.
2. The upgraded guns cost an insane amount of Dilithium that I cannot get near as quick anymore.
In my opinion, the Kumari's too fragile. The tactical version is quite horrendous (that boff layout is possibly the worst in escort history). The other two you could possibly work around, but there's also the fact that they all have only two rear weapon slots. That means that when you're not facing your target you're only hitting them with two turrets. Oh yeah, and not to mention that to use those shiny wing cannons you're stuck with phasers.

Quote:
Mobius Destroyer
Advantages:
1. The universal slots allow me to customize the bridge officer crew as I see fit.
2. The set bonuses given by the timeship consoles can very well keep me alive far better than much of anything else Winston has access to at the moment. (0 reputation as of yet.)

Disadvantages:
1. Whether I use 800 Lobi or sell keys, the cost just for this one ship is more Zen spent than the entire Kumari Pack would cost. Yes, I did the math.
2. Highly unlikely that any fleetmates just so happen to have a spare Mobius in their bank that I can buy/trade/beg/steal from them.
2. In addition to that, I would have to shell out even more Zen to get Lobi for the other temporal set consoles.


This one here is a nice ship, but it's all about whether you want to spend all that money on it.

Quote:
Fleet Advanced Escort
Advantages:
1. I have wanted the Hephaestus Class version ever since I first saw it last summer.
2. If I buy the Multi-Vector version, the Fleet version will only cost one Module.
3. The assistance given by the Multi-Vector drones can allow a good player to solo a Cube.
4. I already have 3k Zen, so I can just go ahead and get the Multi-Vector, and start saving for a Module.
5. That one Module, I can hopefully buy/trade/beg/steal from a fleetmate.

Disadvantages:
1. It has 3 Tactical officer slots. Sacrificing an Engineer slot would hinder my ability to keep my shields up. As an Escort, the small size makes it heavily dependant on what little hull and shields it has.
The fleet MVAE can be a pretty good ship if you know how to use it. It's got an extra science boff slot which can make the thing pull a gravity well, if you want that. I've never used its separation (I don't own the thing) so I can't really tell you about that.

My opinion is that between the Mobius and fleet MVAE, the Mobius is what I would go for the Mobius if you can. Otherwise, shoot for the MVAE.
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Captain
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# 2146
03-26-2013, 08:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lindaleff View Post
I guarantee you it will not have the instakill Thalaron gun. () Also, if Cryptic does not give us a cat or dog species, I am not going to be playing Rommy side. I really want a Rommykitty species to correspond with what we have already, and additional bonuses for unlocking all 3 of them, just like we have set bonuses for using things of the same series.

I know that I can separate the quote to many fragments, I was just too lazy and this day did not have an auspicious start...

Who cares about the Thalaron weapon (well I do but it's not like I will start Pulsewaving every dev I see if I don't get it)
The Scimitar is the meanest looking ship in the history of mean-looking ships so I want it (Donatra's Scimitar would look good but I doubt there will be a skin for it)

And I hope there will be a kitty race for green side but if there isn't I'm okay with Reman too (wonder what a Reman woman would look like, probably something super ugly/badass)
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 16
# 2147
03-26-2013, 09:59 AM
Believe me, Scimitar will have the thalaron weapon! I bet 5 mil EC on it ! And if it didn't, the devs know they would never hear the end of it!

Besides, the thing takes forever to fire, and considering the damage multiplier that NPC's get, our version of it would likely at best drop nothing more than the facing shields of an escort who's pilot decides to take a tea break in front of a player scimitar.

PVP, it will be a useless weapon I guarantee, so no need to worry about a nerf there, PVE it might serve to drop facing shields of a wave of KASE probes or CSE bops, that's about my predictions of how this weapon will perform at best. Still, it'll be a pleasure to hear that charge-up and see that magnificent burst!

As for Remans, I don't think they will get females, would probably be a big fat no from CBS on that, same as they did with nausicaans and gorn etc. Unless they existed on the screen, we won't get them. Although as much as I'd wish for a kitty species, I'll probably start out with a Reman as my choice, I think they are still a fairly unique and interesting species! Especially their psi abilities, I wonder how they will work as player characters.
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Posts: 4,321
# 2148
03-26-2013, 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eatenbykitsune View Post
As for Remans, I don't think they will get females, would probably be a big fat no from CBS on that, same as they did with nausicaans and gorn etc.
reman females have already been mentioned several times in STO, compared to no mention whatsoever of gorn, nausicaan, or lethean women, so i'd say we have a good shot
Quote:
[Combat (Self)] Your Kumari Phaser Wing Cannons - Overload deals 128698 (67705) Phaser Damage(Critical) to Borg Bird-of-Prey.
don't mess with the andorians
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If it walks like an idiot, talks like an idiot, and acts like an idiot, it's a frakking idiot.
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# 2149
03-26-2013, 03:19 PM
Welp, we are going to be stuck with the Chef project soon. Oh joy!

[6/24 23:12] [Combat (Self)] Your Thalaron Pulse deals 126254 (48978) Radiation Damage to Tactical Cube. Hehe. Suck it Borg!
[10/8 15:47] [Combat (Self)] Crystalline Entity deals 98082 (147136) Kinetic Damage to you with Warp Core Breach. WUT? I blame Kurland for this and all other problems in STO.
Captain
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# 2150
03-26-2013, 03:31 PM
I think that cape would be the only reason to wear the Reman rubber suit......
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Originally Posted by shadowfang240 View Post
ehh, wrong! the federation has other types of ships besides escorts that can equip cannons
Really? Which other ones can equip cannons?
Quote:
Originally Posted by voporak View Post
My opinion is that between the Mobius and fleet MVAE, the Mobius is what I would go for the Mobius if you can. Otherwise, shoot for the MVAE.
Personally, the Mobius is what I really want, but I don't want to spend more money on a single ship than the entire Kumari Set would cost. And spend MORE money on the other consoles.
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Originally Posted by loukoc View Post
Who cares about the Thalaron weapon (well I do but it's not like I will start Pulsewaving every dev I see if I don't get it)
If you can use it on the Unimatrix ships, it just MIGHT make Hive Elite completeable. if (IF) you can survive long enough to use the weapon.
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Welp, we are going to be stuck with the Chef project soon. Oh joy!
Use the Fleet Bank. We have PLENTY of drinks and stuff in there. Plus, 3 of my characters have enough alcohol for each of them to open a liquor store. If I transfer all of it to Suroo, I can possibly solo the drinks part of the project. So, it is all easily done.

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