Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 203
# 11
03-23-2013, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by fraghul2000 View Post
I don't know what inept kumari captains you have seen, but it is is far, far from being brittle. I'm currently using the Charal-type on one of my Fed chars (bought it primarily for RP reasons: andorian char, all andorian boff and doff crew) and I'm surprised that it is quite sturdy. when I read all the things about it being made out of paper and being a glass-cannon, I really feared for the worst and that I'd be taking a ship with defensive values of a T3-ship or a basic Aquarius into STFs.

Surprisingly, I was pretty much en par with my Fleet Defiant regarding hitpoints and shield values, while having an additional, defensive boff skill (considering the ensign slot isn't a useless third tac ensign).

Afterwards I looked at the raw stats for each Fed escort and started comparing:

On paper, the Kumari has the same shield mod and more hull than the basic fed escorts and basic raptors (who have more hull, but worse shields) and is on the same level as the c-store Armitage and just slightly worse than the Fleet Defiant, who is burdened with a third Tac-Ensign.

Fleet Defiant: 33.000 Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod
Armitage: 32.000 Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod
Kumari: 32.000 Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod
Basic Fedscort*: 30-31.000 Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod


*MVAE, Advanced, Patrol, Mirror Patrol, Mirror Advanced, Tactical Refit,
The Charal looks to be the best out of the bunch and on par with other escorts. Its probably the other versions I see going boom habitually but I can't be sure since I don't ask and can't tell the difference just by looking. Speed would definitely help the other versions as well as the Birds of Prey.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 37
# 12
03-23-2013, 11:58 AM
I've been dogfighting them in my B'rel (Eng) and generally they're having a tough time in PvP - 4 x Elite Disruptors chews through anything pretty quickly and even the Eng Kumari (with an Eng flying it) is quickly blasted into dust by 2 or 3 BoPs working in tandem.

That said, there's a lot of new really awful Fed Bug pilots in game at the moment too so it's not like it's purely down to the deficiencies of the Kumari line.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,619
# 13
03-23-2013, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lirdek View Post
Why do you think Kumari is such a crap ship compared?
With what?

It have 5 Tactical consoles, it the only non-Fleet and non-Lock Box ship that have 5 tactical consoles.

The BO layout is bad because otherwise everyone would flock to it, truth is I would not mind trading the Uni Lt. for the Engineering Ensign if I could get that Engineering as Lt. because then I would have 2 hull heals (ET and HE) as the only thing I really need on Sci on a escort is HE because its a requirement at this point.

Its just crap because most people rather stay and fight instead of getting out and attack again ... the Kumari is devastating at range but if you try a knife fight then BoPs can certainly out maneuver it and unless you are beam Kumari you are not going to score much hits.
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 462
# 14
03-27-2013, 04:39 AM
OMG why is it that the second a faction gets something interesting and unique there's a group of people from the other faction who immediately want that interesting/unique/exclusive benefit.

The Federation has the best non-cloaking glass-cannon in the game. Use your own advantages to counter unless you want the game homogenized into a big gloopy pudding of boredom!

This has been 'recycling arguments used against Federation suggestions.'
Rihannsu
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 573
# 15
03-27-2013, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jermbot View Post
OMG why is it that the second a faction gets something interesting and unique there's a group of people from the other faction who immediately want that interesting/unique/exclusive benefit.'
Since when KDF got it's last thing? That's right. Last unique thing KDF got was from season 6. Whine about bortasqu(=oddy), breen, timeships, jemmy ships, kamarag(=amby), but those things are not unique to the factions because feds got them as well!
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Commander
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# 16
03-27-2013, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by saxfire View Post
Since when KDF got it's last thing? That's right. Last unique thing KDF got was from season 6. Whine about bortasqu(=oddy), breen, timeships, jemmy ships, kamarag(=amby), but those things are not unique to the factions because feds got them as well!
So... the last unique thing the KDF got was last season.

Holy crap. You've totally made me reconsider my entire position. I now agree, the KDF should have versions of every Federation Ship because they don't get something unique every season.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 573
# 17
04-30-2013, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jermbot View Post
So... the last unique thing the KDF got was last season.
And that was 10 months ago.
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