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# 11
03-27-2013, 12:34 AM
Hmm I wonder why the example was a cruiser. It's not like cruisers profit from those shields the most.... *waves to the all bug pilots*
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# 12
03-27-2013, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
Hmm I wonder why the example was a cruiser. It's not like cruisers profit from those shields the most.... *waves to the all bug pilots*
One might say that Cruisers do - stay with me here a moment:

Consider the high Defense of the Bug.
Consider the lower Defense of the Cruiser.

Which is likely to stack faster with Elite Fleet Shields?

Twisted, yes...ahem...but I haven't had my morning caffeine yet.
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# 13
03-27-2013, 05:26 AM
let's hope s8 and new rep system and crew advancements bring some damage procs, to counter these jam and shield procs
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# 14
03-27-2013, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by borgresearcher View Post
let's hope s8 and new rep system and crew advancements bring some damage procs, to counter these jam and shield procs
You mean new passive healing procs ? Escorts still blow up too easily in pve !
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# 15
03-27-2013, 06:03 AM
Elite fleet shields are way out of line with other gear, to the point where it is immediately obvious when you are shooting at someone with them equipped - you start seeing 2 digit damage numbers only.

Can we not get even the most egregious stuff nerfed?

Buffing damage is not the answer, because then other types of shields would be useless.
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# 16
03-27-2013, 06:03 AM
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You mean new passive healing procs ? Escorts still blow up too easily in pve !
You heard it during the Geko interview, am I right? You've seen the forum posts.

Escorts are still too squishy and don't do enough damage!

Buff Escorts!

/gag
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# 17
03-27-2013, 06:18 AM
If we assume

The Target has Res A Resilient (5% absorb) and opponent has Phaser weapons (15%).

The target has EPTS 3 (30% resistance)

The target has 125 shield power (35%).

The target has 10 stacks of the adapt property, at 2% per stack.


Then, the difference between MACO and a Resilient Res A shield at that point should be about 8 or 9% resistance (with Res A sitting around 69 to 70% SDR).


The value of Res A / B vs. MACO actually becomes larger if the target has lower power and lower EPTS.

For example, EPTS 1, 75 power would see the above example change from 8 or 9% to a difference of about 13% between MACO and Res A / B.


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# 18
03-27-2013, 07:28 AM
Nerf anything which cannot be one shotted by a tacscort alpha? The shame.
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# 19
03-27-2013, 07:33 AM
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Nerf anything which cannot be one shotted by a tacscort alpha? The shame.
That would include the tacsort itself. Trippy, eh?
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# 20
03-27-2013, 08:54 AM
yes yes lot of players abuse fleet shields to adapt to your weapons, you simply do the same and use both ResA and ResB weapons, but i agree its rather redundant, remove fleet shields!!!!
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