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# 61
03-29-2013, 05:42 PM
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this so much this
Aw come on! Scotty was talking about the pre-Retrofit.
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Originally Posted by djf021 View Post

Hello,

I'm currently saving Zen for an Excelsior cruiser (unless I get a ton of recommendations against it). My question is, if you have this ship, what do you think of it? I've heard a lot of good things about it.

ALSO, if I buy the C-store version, (I want it to be account wide obviously) can I get the fleet version for 1 fleet module? Just asking because the fleet starbase price seems to be 5 FMs, (different from the other fleet ships) so I wanted to make sure the pricing is not different somehow for this ship. Thanks for your help!
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Good afternoon:

I know I am re-opening a very old thread, but I really need help from multiple folks as to go about this since I'm new to the game.

I am a Commander and have already bought the Excelsior offered with Zen-transfer purchase. Based on the first few bits of this thread it seems I can obtain a much better Excelsior unit than I have now. Seeing as I can't get a refit yet (even though I have the marks) the thread seems to state I can get a better unit.

I know I'm asking a lot, but if a few folks can tell me how this works, a quick walk-through and patience for a new player I sure would appreciate the hospitality.

Also, I'd like to get a "mentor" for this game. I promise I won't beat someone up with questions, but being an old fart I am pleading for help.

Thanks again.

DD92
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# 63
01-12-2014, 02:55 PM
Well, you probably bought the Advanced Heavy Cruiser. The "better" version is the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit.

That is a separate purchase from the Store and it is that easy. The fine print is that you must be at Admiral rank to purchase it.
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# 64
01-13-2014, 06:35 AM
Personally love the looks of the ship. Sleek, subtle but at the same time not fragile looking.

Gameplay wise shes great too. In battle its got great firepower and survivability, though I confess its a little lacking in sci powers though you've got enough space for the two which matter most (polarize hull and hazard emitters).

Even that third engi slot is actually pretty useful when running Auxtobatt, just by jamming an eng tem on there for emergencies, especially with bleed through being so high in pvp at the moment. Not recommended for most builds though, but nice to have anyway.

Basically, it trades the AC's uni ensign for superior turn, better inertia and a gorgeous skin. Cheaper too, by a full 500 zen.

Also worth noting is her built in transwarp ability. Very useful, especially for non-ambassadors. Also, I'm not sure if this is still the case but her old console gave her a small boost to subsystem power skills which became an intrinsic part of the ship. Its very small, probably less than a point per system, but every little helps and doesnt need a console (mght make the difference between a point registering or not so to speak on your power levels monitor thanks to the joys of rounding).

But yeah, I'm a blatant Excelsior fan. She's just so pretty and awesome.
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# 65
01-13-2014, 08:37 AM
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Good afternoon:

I know I am re-opening a very old thread, but I really need help from multiple folks as to go about this since I'm new to the game.

I am a Commander and have already bought the Excelsior offered with Zen-transfer purchase. Based on the first few bits of this thread it seems I can obtain a much better Excelsior unit than I have now. Seeing as I can't get a refit yet (even though I have the marks) the thread seems to state I can get a better unit.

I know I'm asking a lot, but if a few folks can tell me how this works, a quick walk-through and patience for a new player I sure would appreciate the hospitality.

Also, I'd like to get a "mentor" for this game. I promise I won't beat someone up with questions, but being an old fart I am pleading for help.

Thanks again.

DD92
You are correct, you can obtain a much better Excelsior. Since you mentioned being a Commander you probably obtained the basic Tier 3 Excelsior called Advanced Heavy Cruiser, just like cmdrscarlet suspected.

You see, just to clarify the best I can, there are 3 different versions of the Excelsior in the game:

- The Tier 3 one for players in the range of level 20-30, the one you have that is the basic Excelsior. What've re discussing in this thread was the end-game Excelsior, that's why it probably sounded better than what you currently have. Don't feel bad about getting this one though, the way I see it - it saved you from using some really ugly ship for the levels 20 to 30. In my opinion, all the free ships for Feds. at this level are ugly so at least you bought a pretty ship.
- The Tier 5 one - for players at level 40 and above and this is an end game ship, suitable for all the end game content. You get this one just like you purchased your Tier 3 one, but it costs 2000 Zen and it's called Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit. Now this is the ship that most of the people were discussing about and if you ask me it's the best Federation cruiser and amongst the top cruisers in the game in general. It also comes with 2 skins - the basic Excelsior and the Enterprise-B skins and has innate transwarp ability.
- The Fleet version of the Tier 5 Excelsior called Fleet Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit. Now this is also an end-game ship which is a basic upgrade on the Tier 5 Excelsior with more hull, better shields and an aditional tactical console slot.
In order to obtain this one you need to be in a fleet that has a Tier 3 fleet shipyard and it costs 20k Fleet Credits and 4 Fleet Ship Modules (that can be bought for 500 Zen each in the C-Store, or for around 7.5 milion Energy Credits on the exchange). This is a per character unlock (as are all fleet ships) so when you buy the Fleet Excelisor it will be availible only on that one character you purchased it for. There is however another detail - if you buy the Tier 5 Excelsior that costs 2000 Zen from the C-Store, you'll be eligible for a discount - so when you want to buy a Fleet Excelsior on any character it will cost 20k Fleet Credits and only 1 Fleet Ship Module.

I should also add that I personaly belive cruisers to be a good choice for new players due to their high survavibility that is really helpfull untill a new player gets a hang on the ins ann outs of this game.

Hope this was somewhat helpfull.


Now about the Excelsior - it's a ship I always come back to. I have swaped many Fed ships during my time in STO, but somehow I always find myself going back to this one. It's just immensly fun to fly, I can't give a particular reason it's just fun.
For Star Trek fans that came here to fly cruiser looking Starfleet ships, I think this is the best ship currently availible in game. It has a classic design, it's a beam cruiser just like in the shows and it's a tanking and damage dealing marvel. It melts everything around and takes tons of damage. I'm literally yet to be blow up in an Excelsior, that has never happened so far.
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# 66
01-13-2014, 10:12 AM
i have both the tier 3 and tier 5[lvl 40] versions and I can tell you both are stout ships. Honestly the 2000 zen one is arguably better than the freebie Odyssey I got for the 2 year. Don't know bout the fleet one, never got it.

But for 2000 zen, the retrofit heavy cruiser is not a bad buy at all.
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# 67
01-13-2014, 03:15 PM
Although I frequently fly the Assault Cruiser refit (AC-R), the Excelsior is really my go-to ship!

It feels like the AC-R in it's tanking and fire-power. The Transwarp is invaluable too, it's (IMO) the most useful non-combat feature of all the ships. It gets you to, otherwise near, the sector that you want to go to.

The only thing that might make it slightly better is if it were the Fleet version - which you get a discount on after buying the C-store ship.

Yes, like all C-Store ships, it unlocks account-wide.

This is a ship that means business, in power and looks. If you don't like it's aesthetics, go get one of those "princess" ships. Seriously, if you don't like the looks then get the AC-R, there are only minor difference between them that you would barely notice, except the Transwarp.

Hope this helps!

EDIT: The AC-R is called refit not retrofit. Edited above.
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# 68
01-13-2014, 07:05 PM
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The Transwarp is invaluable too, it's (IMO) the most useful non-combat feature of all the ships. It gets you to, otherwise near, the sector that you want to go to.
Aye, the transwarp drive is really nice, especially in situations when friends tell me via chat that there is some special doff mission like NADORC in some other sector. Just pop the transwarp and boom, I'm there. No doff mission can expire as fast as I can get to it.
Also I might be weird, but what I like the most is when the transwarp drive fails and makes that clunking sound.....makes me remeber good ol' Scotty.

And I'm not sure about 'princess' ships, but I definitely consider the Excelsior prettier than any incarnations of the Assault Cruiser, not even gonna mention the Avenger.
Much prettier than the Sovvy, the Regent is just flat and weird to me, the Majectic and Noble I think are completely fugly and I regularely preform exorcisms when I encounter an Imperial.
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# 69
01-15-2014, 08:41 AM
Excelsior-class is fantastic. She looks great, she plays great, she has a nice transwarp...theres really no downside to her.
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# 70
01-15-2014, 08:43 AM
What's my opinion of the Excelsior? Another ancient design that has no place in 2409, except in an orbital scrapyard.
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