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Lt. Commander
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# 431
02-01-2013, 11:35 AM
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Rihannsu
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# 432
02-01-2013, 11:38 AM
This is not a zombie thread, please do not get this thread closed on false accusations on such a thing.
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Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 433
02-01-2013, 01:03 PM
im trying for a healer role for pvp
Rihannsu
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# 434
02-01-2013, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by xxninjaz1xx View Post
im trying for a healer role for pvp
Ah.. the Healer.. A role that a Carrier doesn't always pull off because of it's Garbage Truck like maneuverability.

Hopefully not in the Kar'fi how ever. Only because while it can provide support, it won't have enough, from my experiences, to produce the same effect as a Vor'quv.

Beams then are you best bet. Phaser, Disruptor, or Phased polaron for sure.

If you have to go a Torpedo boat build instead, Plasma and Transphasics are good. Try to stay away from Tricobalt Mines AND Dispersal Pattern Beta 1 or 2. Not because it's not a good combo, but because despite the "nerf" that was done to that combination, it really wasn't enough.

Shield Healing Drones aren't a bad route to go. You can set them to Defend a target ally, and they will stick to that ally. Not sure if they fixed it so that they will come back if you recall them. Though you'd want to use 2 pairs of Shield healing Drones. Because they just don't really give enough recovery with just one pair. And they made it so that when they explode, they don't do as much damage as other pets. (Last I checked)

Again, Birds of Prey are good damage pets if you put them into Follow and then, as I said before, "sick" them on an enemy.

And Orion Fighters (Don't recall their EXACT name) are good for the Engine disables they can bring out. I think they also can disable weapons. Which is good because that can reduce damage.

That's pretty much all I can think of Pet wise and Weapon wise for a "Healer" Carrier. Not my best subject. I hope what I do give helps.
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Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 435
02-01-2013, 01:50 PM
thanks for the help

if need-be ill just use my sci-carrier to attack and leave the healing role to my engi-fleet negh'var . . . ill definitely try out what you said first . . . if it doesnt work for pvp then im sure it can help for pve (for the people that just get to higher levels and havent sorted ships like escorts).

either way i want to be a healer since there is a severe lack of them in pvp

again thanks for the advice XD
Captain
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 623
# 436
02-01-2013, 02:03 PM
I don't do much pvp, just a few kerrats, c&h, ect but regarding the mirror vo'quv, it might be worth experimenting with a aux2 dampener as it really can increase your turn rate for long enough to potentially turn around to get an angle for a subnuke, gw, vm, ect (of course it requires awareness so you have aux2sif when needed)

Of course using it and an aux2sif means you are stuck cycling epts1 and 2 or two epts1, the two epts1 option opens the ability to have an extend1 as well - in the end its how you play that decides the best option - I tend to pack my sci slots with shield emmiters so epts1 works for my 'keep out of danger until you have no choice' method of carrier flying but if you charge right in, epts2 is a batter option, or epts3 and a epts2
Captain
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# 437
04-04-2013, 11:35 AM
I know that an Aux2Bat build on the Atrox carrier would be foolhardy, but could an Aux2Bat (two Aux2Bats, actually) be run on any other type of carrier?

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# 438
04-04-2013, 11:42 AM
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I know that an Aux2Bat build on the Atrox carrier would be foolhardy, but could an Aux2Bat (two Aux2Bats, actually) be run on any other type of carrier?
The Mirror Vo'quv has the slots to run it, but in all honesty, it's probably a bad idea. You kill your ability to rapidly relaunch pets, and the effectiveness of all Aux-sensitive powers, in return for bringing your remaining BOff powers to their group cooldowns while cranking your weapon, engine, and shield power to the max. In all honesty, I don't think you'd be getting enough out of your remaining BOff powers to justify not having the ability to rapidly put your pets back into the air.
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# 439
04-04-2013, 12:03 PM
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I know that an Aux2Bat build on the Atrox carrier would be foolhardy, but could an Aux2Bat (two Aux2Bats, actually) be run on any other type of carrier?
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Originally Posted by thegrimcorsair View Post
The Mirror Vo'quv has the slots to run it, but in all honesty, it's probably a bad idea. You kill your ability to rapidly relaunch pets, and the effectiveness of all Aux-sensitive powers, in return for bringing your remaining BOff powers to their group cooldowns while cranking your weapon, engine, and shield power to the max. In all honesty, I don't think you'd be getting enough out of your remaining BOff powers to justify not having the ability to rapidly put your pets back into the air.


The mirror Vor'quv might be the only carrier I'd consider doing it with.. Not sure on how effective it would be, because as you said, you'd be losing your Aux power for the Recharge boosts..

Although I do wonder if running 2x Purple Technicians, 1x Blue Technician, 2 Purple Flight Deck Doffs (Recharge reduction) Might help with the pet situation that grim states above. Because he is right that your Aux power being reduced constantly will hurt your ability to deploy pets, but I also wonder if the Flight Deck cool down reducing Doffs could make up for that.

I don't have the ability to test this theory because I don't own the Mirror Vor'quv, or have the Doffs on a character I would give the mirror Vor'quv to in order to test it properly. But if pets were all that you worry about, that might be a way to get around the Aux drain.
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Captain
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# 440
04-04-2013, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by webdeath View Post
The mirror Vor'quv might be the only carrier I'd consider doing it with.. Not sure on how effective it would be, because as you said, you'd be losing your Aux power for the Recharge boosts..

Although I do wonder if running 2x Purple Technicians, 1x Blue Technician, 2 Purple Flight Deck Doffs (Recharge reduction) Might help with the pet situation that grim states above. Because he is right that your Aux power being reduced constantly will hurt your ability to deploy pets, but I also wonder if the Flight Deck cool down reducing Doffs could make up for that.

I don't have the ability to test this theory because I don't own the Mirror Vor'quv, or have the Doffs on a character I would give the mirror Vor'quv to in order to test it properly. But if pets were all that you worry about, that might be a way to get around the Aux drain.
Do fighters and drones share the same cooldown? It might be worthwhile in their case, but you'd definitely be hamstringing any use of frigates. I dunno, though. Piggiest ship I ever flew was the Oddy last anniversary, and I can't see the slower turning Mirror Vo'quv getting a lot of mileage out of its BOff slots at global cooldown.

Maybe something like this:

TB1 / HE 2 / ST3 / PSW3(TBR3)

TT1 / AP 1 / AP:O 1

EPtS 1 / Aux2Bat 1 / RSP 2

EPtA 1 / Aux2Bat 1

Hangar 1: Orion Interceptors
Hangar 2: Siphon Drones (More Orion Interceptors)

Really out of my depth, though.
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