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# 31
04-05-2013, 07:31 PM
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i don't know were they are getting this from, the D'deridex is a great tank, thats the opposite of what it was. it was a HORRIBLE ship of the line, being part of a joint fleet, they got obliterated. the cardi weapon platforms every hit did an incredible amount of damage per hit, federaion ships, like the galaxy, and kdf ships too much less damage. these are decloak alpha strikers, not attrition fighters like a fed cruiser would be.

these warbirds should have battle cruiser turning, escort hull and cruiser shields
I always thought it was understood that a D'deridex was more than a match for a Galaxy class. Something like a 60/40 split in favor of the D'deridex if they got into a head to head fight. Bringing cloak into the mix makes it no contest. That's why the Romulans were a serious threat in TNG.
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# 32
04-05-2013, 07:45 PM
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i don't know were they are getting this from, the D'deridex is a great tank, thats the opposite of what it was. it was a HORRIBLE ship of the line, being part of a joint fleet, they got obliterated. the cardi weapon platforms every hit did an incredible amount of damage per hit, federaion ships, like the galaxy, and kdf ships too much less damage. these are decloak alpha strikers, not attrition fighters like a fed cruiser would be.

these warbirds should have battle cruiser turning, escort hull and cruiser shields
Screen canon, especially DS9 which had a chronic habit of blowing away anything that wasn't the hero ship just to make the bad guys look intimidating, are a bad measure for game balance and playability. This is the show that would have us believe the Defiant is a nearly unkillable flying pimp hand of death whereas the shields of ever Excelsior ever crumble like tissue paper if you sneeze at it (unless that Excelsior is the Lakota for some reason).
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# 33
04-05-2013, 07:49 PM
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I always thought it was understood that a D'deridex was more than a match for a Galaxy class. Something like a 60/40 split in favor of the D'deridex if they got into a head to head fight. Bringing cloak into the mix makes it no contest. That's why the Romulans were a serious threat in TNG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=H_XbWq49vUM

this is what a galaxy class can actually do when its not plot railroaded to lose vs a bop. the D'deridex can drop a galaxy classes shields 10% per hit with its biggest gun on ay ship super single cannon of death. that the in game model couldn't get the hardpoints in the right place for

both are battlships in terms of firepower, both with an arsenal capable of obliterating the other in a mater of seconds, it would just depend on who got the shot off first. theres a good change a galaxy would survive long enough to at least return fire even when caught flat footed.
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# 34
04-05-2013, 07:53 PM
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# 35
04-05-2013, 08:24 PM
We only have the Romulans' word that a Galaxy-class would be no match for a Warbird, right? To that I say: lol.

There are two direct battles between Starfleet and Romulan ships that I can think of right this moment. First, the Enterprise-C took on multiple warbirds of unknown type and was eventually defeated. We don't know how long that took, but it apparently wasn't a short battle.

Second, in a Voyager episode the Prometheus, an Akira, and two Defiants took on three warbirds, killed one of them dead and the other two ran.

Those examples don't particularly instill awe in Romulan space supremacy.
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# 36
04-05-2013, 08:40 PM
Game balancing notwithstanding, in the episode "Tin Man" a volley of several shots from the Romulan Warbird's main distruptors caused the Enterprise-D to suffer "seventy percent loss to main shields", and after attempting to restore power it was stated by LaForge that: "by stealing some power from the structural integrity field. You should have partial shielding in thirty minutes".

Then there's this tap on the shoulder encounter.
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