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# 21
04-06-2013, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by darramouss1 View Post
In a PodcastUGC interview with Captain Gecko they asked about the sci/esc/cru dynamics. Gecko stated that they focus more on escorts as more people spend money on them. Because of that they give escorts more love. VERY disappointing.




My fears exactly.
More love=more ship releases, they were not implying they try to make escorts op.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, and T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.
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# 22
04-06-2013, 09:01 AM
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More love=more ship releases, they were not implying they try to make escorts op.
I'm not going to listen to the podcast again as it was insanely long but it was recognised that escorts are the better ships and there won't be efforts to change that.
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# 23
04-06-2013, 09:11 AM
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You're right, I don't have stats. I have this, though.

"Romulan ships tend to be large and heavy, making them somewhat slower and less maneuverable than comparable Federation and Klingon Defense Force ships. The iconic D?deridex, for example, is larger and more resilient than the Galaxy ? but considerably slower as a result."

This is from Dev Blog 3.

Slow ships with cannons aren't as useful as fast ships with cannons. I don't think many people will argue with this, after all if you can't get the cannons aimed at the enemy they're useless. This is but one of the things that makes the JHAS so deadly.

Logic follows that if your ship can't turn fast enough for cannons you're going to have to fit on beams or torpedoes. (I seriously doubt there will ever be a ship that only packs mines and nothing else.)

I seriously doubt that they will invalidate the Feds and the klinks by making the Romulans noticeably stronger or have wildly stronger powers. If they do that then who will play (and pay for items from) the original two factions? That being said, apart from a few new fancy powers they're just going to be green ships that will blend in to the PvP background. Any serious PvP Romulan will just fly a JHAS.

Cryptics blind lust for the profits generated by escorts will hurt the Romulans.


So..... Oddys, Bortas, Most carriers are no good in PVP ?
I thought I took the Blue Pill.......
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# 24
04-06-2013, 09:15 AM
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I'm not going to listen to the podcast again as it was insanely long but it was recognised that escorts are the better ships and there won't be efforts to change that.
Well if you're not willing that really says it all doesn't it?
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, and T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.
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# 25
04-06-2013, 09:16 AM
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So..... Oddys, Bortas, Most carriers are no good in PVP ?
A team of escorts that focus fire will beat a team of oddys on most days. Yes, there will be battles that the cruisers win but in the end the war will go to the escorts.


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Well if you're not willing that really says it all doesn't it?
Did you listen to it? Did you take the time to? I did. I listened to it once and owing the very long length of it I'm not going to listen to it again to find the exact time when he says it.
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# 26
04-06-2013, 09:46 AM
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Did you listen to it? Did you take the time to? I did. I listened to it once and owing the very long length of it I'm not going to listen to it again to find the exact time when he says it.
He says that escorts are the best sellers and that they will focus on making more escorts than anything else. It's that simple, cryptic PR is bad but not "we want to make the game more imbalanced" bad.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, and T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.
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# 27
04-06-2013, 10:26 AM
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We need to wait and see what kinds of powers willl be associated with the new singularity warp cores as well. we simply don't have enough information at this point to make a call on this issue.
The Singularity Cores in the Dil Store hint at several of the powers - there's what, 5 or 6 of them? Shielding, Jump, Overcharge, Warp Shadow, etc, etc, etc...
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# 28
04-06-2013, 02:32 PM
From what's been said on TTS, the stats haven't been finalised yet for the Romulan warbirds.

Lets wait until actual stats appear before whining. Story fluff is interesting, but doesn't directly translate into gameplay.

I'll admit though, if they give the D'deridex a turnrate of 6 instead of 9 like a Negh'var, I'm going to avoid it. That'll be despite it being on of my favourite ships in Trek.
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# 29
04-06-2013, 03:22 PM
One other hint from the blog:

With an emphasis on the tactical use of potent abilities stemming from advanced Romulan technology, Romulan Warbirds are built to fight like the Romulans themselves ? with a high risk, high reward style.

So, just maybe, they have some high criticals or special overload attacks. Or extra high level tac slots.
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# 30
04-06-2013, 03:39 PM
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He says that escorts are the best sellers and that they will focus on making more escorts than anything else.
The way I see it, It's BECAUSE escorts are more overpowered than science ships/cruisers/etc that they are the better sellers. If this game was at pre-F2P levels, science ships would be the better sellers with at least some more cruisers being sold.

And it shouldn't be the case that "escorts are stronger than most ships and that is how it should be". If they actually leveled the playing field a little bit more and somehow made cruisers more viable in PVP/PVE, they could have more sales across the board.
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