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# 111
04-07-2013, 06:12 AM
So despite the fact that I don't even want your precious fleet ships, if I were to join your fleet I wouldn't be allowed my fleet D'deridex either? Seeing as there's no way to seperate them. Right, won't be joining your fleet then. Seriously the only thing you're 'losing' is a ship token, and since the romulan would have to put in resources to earn the fleet creds needed you're not even really losing that.

Stop trying to screw over other players please?
Career Officer
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# 112
04-07-2013, 06:20 AM
Let's face it, you honestly believe any sane fleet leader will enforce this kind of boycott and expect to keep their members?

You know what? I don't really care if my Fed can't fly a Warbird. I'm sure many others on Fed and KDF feel the same way. Besides, we can always make a Romulan character if we want to fly Warbirds. And Romulans can fly Fed or KDF ships? How is that any different from all the other non-faction ships everyone is flying anyway? And in the end, Romulans will probably have as less or as much ships as the Fed or KDF currently have access to, once people do the numbers post LoR launch.

Aww, my character doesn't have access to Warbirds! Whoop-de-freakin'-do...
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Commander
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# 113
04-07-2013, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hypl View Post
Aww, my character doesn't have access to Warbirds! Whoop-de-freakin'-do...
But didn't you read the description, the Warbird is going to be so big and so awesome that it'll turn slower than the Galaxy! Finally, there's going to be a captain level ship in game for all of those people who played the Galaxy and thought, "This ship is far too nimble, it turns so quickly I'm having trouble focusing."
Captain
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# 114
04-07-2013, 06:47 AM
You know? I am as annoyed with the way Cryptic is handling the addition of the Romulan faction as much as anyone else who is annoyed with it. But calling for a boycott is just plain selfish and immature.

Like it or not, this is just a game. Cryptic makes it more and more clear that this is how they think of it. They refuse to try to even attempt to make it as STAR TREK game beyond the superficial. That particular message has been etched in stone for a while now.

It is clear that no matter how much this community asks nicely, begs desperately, or demands angrily, Cryptic is going to do what they will do. We have two choices. Accept it and keep playing, trying to find whatever enjoyment we can, or we can reject it, stop playing and find our gaming enjoyment elsewhere. Of course the third option of pointlessly bucking the system remains, but it won't accomplish anything.

We need to grow up and deal.
I personally want a Star Trek game that is actually Star Trek. On a qualitative level that could be a lot of different things for a lot of different people. But on a quantitative level, if the developers were to watch star trek and make the game like what they see, then at least it will be a shot in the right direction, as far as I am concerned.
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# 115
04-07-2013, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sirsitsalot View Post
It is clear that no matter how much this community asks nicely, begs desperately, or demands angrily, Cryptic is going to do what they will do. We have two choices. Accept it and keep playing, trying to find whatever enjoyment we can, or we can reject it, stop playing and find our gaming enjoyment elsewhere. Of course the third option of pointlessly bucking the system remains, but it won't accomplish anything.

We need to grow up and deal.
You realize that Cryptic does alot of the things that members of this community ask nicely, beg desperately, and demand angrily. This community asked for a Federation Carrier so many times that the flamewars that ensued were the stuff of legend, and this community also said that Starfleet would never make a carrier. The Atrox, a Caitian Carrier, is in game. This community asked for a Klingon Cruiser that's tactically oriented, the Fleet Vorcha fits the bill nicely. This community asked for a T5 K'tinga, a T5 Nova with tactical orientation, and a T5 Akira with launch bay pets. All of those things happened. This community asked for ships to represent the navy's of the Klingons conquered species, those happened. This community asked for a Romulan faction, and it's on its way. Hell, I personally asked for a Fleet Escort, we call them Patrol Escorts now, with an adjustable ensign station because I wanted a science ensign but liked the way the Dervish looked. That happened.

The problem isn't that Cryptic doesn't listen to us. The problem is that Cryptic gives us what we want, but can't always give it to us in the way that we'd like.
Captain
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# 116
04-07-2013, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jermbot View Post
The problem isn't that Cryptic doesn't listen to us. The problem is that Cryptic gives us what we want, but can't always give it to us in the way that we'd like.
That is an accurate statement. However, the likelihood of the Romulan aspect changing very much, if at all, is slim. They have poured months of work into it and the sort of changes people seem to be wanting would require redesigning the system, because the system is currently designed around what they currently have.

So I don't see our asking, begging or demanding having an impact this time...

I could be wrong, and it would be nice if I am. But I have a strong feeling I am right on this.
I personally want a Star Trek game that is actually Star Trek. On a qualitative level that could be a lot of different things for a lot of different people. But on a quantitative level, if the developers were to watch star trek and make the game like what they see, then at least it will be a shot in the right direction, as far as I am concerned.
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# 117
04-07-2013, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by captainmal3 View Post
So despite the fact that I don't even want your precious fleet ships, if I were to join your fleet I wouldn't be allowed my fleet D'deridex either? Seeing as there's no way to seperate them. Right, won't be joining your fleet then. Seriously the only thing you're 'losing' is a ship token, and since the romulan would have to put in resources to earn the fleet creds needed you're not even really losing that.

Stop trying to screw over other players please?
First off - my suggestion was just that - a suggestion. It is up to each individual fleet leader to make the choices for their fleet.

My point remains the same - what is availible for 1 fleet member should be availible for ALL -PERIOD. No exceptions.

I believe this is a fundemental policy that fleets should follow. Cryptic wants extra sales and therefore believes the new faction/class should be "special" - this could create problems in the fleet, annomosity, jealously, etc - and sets a bad precedent going down the Line.

One of the more notable and very much "Cryptic fanboy" on this thread believes the solution is to lock-off fleet ships of the ally - and just allow access to the Fleet Romulan ships. This is a perfectly reasonable and sane solution. Therefore all Romulans will have access to what they should: Romulan Fleet ships! (sorry jexsamx - you did refer to yourself once as a fanboy - unless they piss you off then you go medieval on their behind - but definitely one of the more sensible people on the forums)

Last edited by born2bwild1; 04-07-2013 at 08:56 AM.
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# 118
04-07-2013, 08:58 AM
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