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# 61
04-11-2013, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by antrenos View Post
This does not compute. In canon (particularly Voyager in which this is a reference), the Communication Network was obliterated when Voyager destroyed one of it's relays. The singularity which was powering the array, sent a massive shockwave throughout the network.

The rest of the backstory is copy-and-paste from either TNG, or the Path to 2409. Where's the Legacy of Romulus NEWS?
The Hirogen have had over 30 years to repair or replace the communications network...
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# 62
04-11-2013, 11:28 PM
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This is not something I'd want on my C.V.
'struth. When was the last time any of Sela's plans have ever worked? Sela is a terrible Evil Mastermind.
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# 63
04-12-2013, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by doffingcomrade View Post
'struth. When was the last time any of Sela's plans have ever worked? Sela is a terrible Evil Mastermind.
Well... none that we actually saw on the show, but she did manage to rise to a position of power within the Romulan Star Empire despite being the half-human daughter of a (Starfleet) sex-slave.
She might be able to spin some of the plans as as perfect plans in general can be, as well - it's not always possible to make plans where all ends leads to victory.
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# 64
04-12-2013, 09:59 AM
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it's not always possible to make plans where all ends leads to victory.
NONSENSE !
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# 65 Lethal Alliances
04-12-2013, 09:59 AM
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In the Romulan Front, Taris still had control of the Tal Shiar, was allied with the Iconians, and opposed Sela.

But you take Taris out of the picture entirely and she ends up in Facility 4028*. By Cutting the Cord, Sela is clearly if not in control of the Tal Shiar then on good terms with them, as she came to their rescue after you kill Hakeev, and their Iconian buddies in turn came to hers.

Basically, she's consolidated.

*-in the 2800 she was one of the two notable prisoners sprung from there using Iconian technology, suggesting that she's still valuable to the Iconians even with Sela to take her place. I suspect that after Facility 4028 the two are allies, if not willingly then because the Iconians said to play nice.
Well said! Taris' capture created an opening for Sela to make a major power play. Further, Sela's successes in both contacting the Hirogen (having repaired a portion of their communications network) and brokering an alliance with them more than likely led the remaining Tal Shiar to reassess their views about her.

"When the dust settled, Sela was Empress of the Romulan Star Empire. Since then, she has ruled with a mixture of strength and deceit. She has devoted much of the empire's resources to the Tal Shiar, building the power of their fleet and making them the dominate force in Romulan space. She will go to any lengths to restore the former glory of the Empire, making secret alliances of which even she may not understand the full implications."

True to Romulan form, intrigues abound as Sela rbuilds the RSE; Her RSE. And the stakes have never been higher. And with regard to her 'alliance' with the Iconians, Who is using Whom?
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# 66
04-12-2013, 10:03 AM
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Yes I saw that, but it doesn't really explain it very well, it states her being involved in the events from TNG, then states her ambitions led her to becoming proconsul in 2384.

It doesn't explain why she wasn't demoted or exiled after her failed plots and how she was able to become proconsul afterward. Doen't really make sense as someone like Tomalak is much more competent and should have been in a better postion to seize power rather then retiring.
The entirety of the Path to 2409 does a pretty good job of explaining things: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...CW9cmvqCn2aIQk (including her eventual exile).

Tomalak actually features prominently - he is defeated by Donatra's break away forces and his second in command Taris defects, so he "gets" to "retire" to Romulus.

His replacement is Sela - although we only saw her failures in the show, it is entirely possible that she has a long string of successful espionage or military engagements, and only the failures are so noteworthy because they were very public and involved the Enterprise.

It should be noted that despite a highly successful build up, Tomalak failed to capture the Enterprise and a Romulan defector - a high profile failed operation.


The Path to 2409 is also pretty sparse with details concerning the Romulans in the years leading up to 2409, so there's not too much for the big expansion to contradict. Which is nice and will help let the devs explain a bit more about Sela's reign as Praetor and then Empress.
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# 67
04-12-2013, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hevach View Post
*-in the 2800 she was one of the two notable prisoners sprung from there using Iconian technology, suggesting that she's still valuable to the Iconians even with Sela to take her place. I suspect that after Facility 4028 the two are allies, if not willingly then because the Iconians said to play nice.
Of course its possible that breaking Taris was more about making sure she doesn't spill the beans to the federation.
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# 68
04-12-2013, 10:32 AM
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If Sela thinks I'm a terrorist now wait until I have a C-Store D'Deridex to shove where the Tal Shiar's sun doesn't shine.
Hah! Joke's on you; the Tal Shiar's sun doesn't shine, 'cause it got BLOWED UP.

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# 69
04-12-2013, 11:32 AM
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You are overinterpreting. There is nothing in the game that would suggest that she came to rescue Hakeev.
Not overthinking, just taking into account the changes made to the story on Tribble. Granted I'd said the same thing back when the mission came out - that Sela had taken advantage of the Federation capturing Taris to take control of the Tal Shiar, but the dialog between her and Hakeev makes it clear whose in charge.

The changes to CTC are pretty small, but the full implications are pretty big. Not only does it confirm Sela taking Taris's place with the Tal Shiar, it's also the first time the Iconians are spoken of without riddle or mystery, and the first time we know why they're working with the Romulans: They need a gateway opened so they can return in force. I guess after Sheperd defeated Sovereign they could no longer open the Conduit.

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# 70
04-12-2013, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
Yes.

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