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# 11
04-11-2013, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kamiyama317 View Post
This really only applies if you use cruddy BOffs on your ship. I wouldn't trust anyone to train one of my efficient Saurians in a skill. There's no guarantee they would give them back. What about someone with a veteran BOff (worth like 100 mil)?
Efficient Saurians really aren't worth while anymore... their prices and usefulness plunged once Leadership stacking and Romulan superior-operative BOFF's went live. It's the exotic DOFF's like Aux2SIF DCE's that command crazy 30mil+ prices these days.

The only folks I would trust with training my Fed Orions and Vet BOFF are my fleet mates -- I've been with them since the early days of STO shooting the breeze on Vent, so there is little danger of them doing any snatch and grab.


EDIT: Regarding Captain Abilities -- don't ignore them. They are HUGE (SNB vs. AP-Alpha vs. RSF, etc...) and will dictate how good players fly their ships.

Last edited by shar487a; 04-11-2013 at 04:14 PM.
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# 12
04-11-2013, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kamiyama317 View Post
This really only applies if you use cruddy BOffs on your ship. I wouldn't trust anyone to train one of my efficient Saurians in a skill. There's no guarantee they would give them back. What about someone with a veteran BOff (worth like 100 mil)?
Veterans only get trained by trusted fleet-members, i would hate to lose 1 of my 5 vets..
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# 13
04-11-2013, 09:44 PM
Never really cared for Photonic Fleet, they were more diversionary than supportive.

Not many space abilities really have that big of an impact compared to BOff abilities.

I do use my Miracle Worker time to time, but honestly, I can put greater effect using Sci Team+Hazard Emitters, etc. etc. And have a greater effect on my repairing.

Overall, I see no real reason to have such a strain on worrying about your player class vs ship class. Compared to how the game was 2 years ago to now, almost all the character abilities based on class have already been nerfed nearly into the ground.

What really pushes players aside, are the BOff abilities.
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# 14
04-11-2013, 09:46 PM
I'm debating whether or not to do a full respec on my Engineer, and gear him towards science abilities like my other full sci toons. Since I already have all of the main abilities in levels 2 and 3 I'd ever use (Gravity Well, Photonic Shockwave, Sensor Scan, Viral Matrix, etc) and could make a pretty vicious Vanerus.
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# 15
04-12-2013, 03:25 AM
as said above


TACTICAL has most useful and powerful captain skills in the game, Attack Pattern Alpha ,Fire on my Mark, Tac Fleet, Go down fighting, Tac init.

For a Tac Escort PvE is a silly easy and in serious PvP only really a TAC Escort or a trick TAC Cruiser build has a chance of killing another experienced player.

A Good build Tac escort can have as much survivability as a Tank Cruiser and does 4-5 times the effective damage, the gap is huge.

In the all round game Tactical has a Huge advanatage over other classes

Science Captain Skills are mainly only useful in PvP as part of a group, although Sensor Scan can be quite useful PvE, other skills Sci Fleet, Dampening field help with tanking PvE but you don't really need them in PvE, Sub Nuc only useful PvP.

Engineer Captain Skills not very useful at present, the nadioncconv and epts have some use tio increase dps slightly , RSF ,eng fleet and miracle worker can help PvP tanking slightly and help a little in Pve but you can tank pve without them.

In Summary best class combo for allround game ,PvE, STF and PvP by a huge margin just now Tac /Escort.

Sci in a Sci ship is very poor PvE and Stf, Engy Cruiser a bit better,but nearly all the expereienced players use an ESCORT with thier Sci and Engineers for PvE and STFs

Very sad they need to do a balance pass
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# 16
04-12-2013, 04:59 AM
There are some boffs that are bound, training those get harder...
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# 17
04-12-2013, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by covenanter View Post
/snip - sorry
Did you know, that during any given 15 minute period of play - that you're going to experience at least 73% downtime on the five innate abilities provided by your career selection? That means at most...27% uptime.

Given positioning needs, firing arcs, targets exploding, and all that fun stuff...one could easily make the case that in general - Tac is the least efficient and thus the worst Career choice. They potentially could have the least uptme on their abilities.

Now of course, one could also easily make the case that when in need of inefficient quick bursts of damage - the Eng/Sci simply cannot compare...and that's a valid argument. In PvP where you have small gaps created to spike damage - the Tac will excel. In PvE when somebody screws something up and you need that fast and heavy burst - the Tac will excel.

Curious, eh?
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# 18
04-12-2013, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kamiyama317 View Post
This really only applies if you use cruddy BOffs on your ship. I wouldn't trust anyone to train one of my efficient Saurians in a skill. There's no guarantee they would give them back. What about someone with a veteran BOff (worth like 100 mil)?
Well, Boff theft is dishonest and low. Any possible benefit I could derive from stealing a 100M boff is more than completely erased by the destruction of any trade relationships. But I would not recommend you rely on a total stranger for such a thing...at least go with a regular face that people expect to see again. One that won't function well branded as a thief.
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# 19
04-12-2013, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by doffingcomrade View Post
Well, Boff theft is dishonest and low. Any possible benefit I could derive from stealing a 100M boff is more than completely erased by the destruction of any trade relationships. But I would not recommend you rely on a total stranger for such a thing...at least go with a regular face that people expect to see again. One that won't function well branded as a thief.
Get a girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband/parent/child/coworker/neighbor/etc to create an account with characters specifically leveled for any of your training needs.
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# 20
04-12-2013, 07:33 AM
I've been doing alot of pvp lately and one thing I've noticed is people call for alphas and subnukes alot. I can't seem to find those skills on any bridge officers on the exchange and the BO trainer doesn't have it either and none of my friends can train it. I've spent the last week looking over every single BO on the exchange, am I missing something?

Can anyone here train it for me please?
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