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# 21
04-12-2013, 06:06 AM
If you are looking to do DPS in a fed sci ship, the Atrox is your only option, IMO. Kicks the tail out of my Vesta regularly due to the second rack of elite scorps. If you can handle the big girls, she absolutely rocks.

Tacs actually do better in a Vesta then a sci, IMO. Their captain abilities actually buff the damage of the ship and her console, where in the Atrox so much damage comes from the scorps that tac abilities mean far less.

Sorry, I do not have any first hand experience with boxed ships.
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# 22
04-12-2013, 05:49 PM
From my experience in the Wells, unless you are willing to kit it out with a Temporal build (set + AP + Chroniton), then it is very unlikely to be on par with the Vesta. On paper, it is the more sensible choice for a science officer, and indeed if done right it can be a good ship for the other careers. What it lacks in hull strength, it makes up for in gadgets such as the Focus field controller, and the ability to equip cannons. The hanger pets do provide a boost to overall damage and it can be very useful to have sidekicks (I would recommend the Elite Scorpions). Also, with the DHC's draining Aux power instead of Weapon power, you have very little need for the latter, meaning you no longer have to choose between damage output and effective science abilities, unless you run 3 turrets aft, which while it does focus the power on cannons, will be a minimal increase given the low power level, so i would think a mine and torpedo might be a good choice to have aft, with maybe one turret or the Kinetic Cutting Beam for that little bit extra, but then again you can always boost that power with EPtW, batteries, or even energy syphon. Like many I agree that the Vesta is, on paper at least, the most powerful science ship available. The Wells is much more suited to science abilities than most ships, and so is severely lacking in offensive capabilities. So if you choose the Wells, be prepared to have a low damage output, even with your best gear.

Conclusion: if you want to increase your DPS, the Vesta is the clear choice. While science ships are designed primarily to support fellow players, this is easily done (especially with the Fermion field console) whilst maintaining a high DPS with the cannons.

P.S. If you find the turn rate a bit low, you could always equip the Tachyokinetic converter or an RCS Accellerator, however, given that most escorts have around 15 and the Vesta has 12, that shouldn't be too much of a problem. In fact I recommend you add the Converter anyway; it's a very useful console for any ship, especially science officers, given the graviton and critical hit boost.
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# 23
04-12-2013, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by malakhglitch View Post
Because I have low funds and a cheap bastard especially since Romulans are coming in May.

Seriously, it's because I find it hard getting EC above 200k since I am a casual player.
You asked for suggestions and you got them. To gain money, goto Star fleet academy, personnel officer assignments and sell them on the exchange.

Easy to do and it brings good cash. Getting commodities like jevonite near ds9 and selling them on the exchange.

These ships are below 90k EC which is incredibly cheap and they will give you a good sci experience.
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# 24
04-12-2013, 06:25 PM
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Because I have low funds and a cheap bastard especially since Romulans are coming in May.

Seriously, it's because I find it hard getting EC above 200k since I am a casual player.
Grinding the normal 8k of Dilithium will earn you nearly 80 Zen at the current exchange rate. A couple of days of grinding and you can get enough Zen to buy a Master Key. You can then sell the Master Key for ECs - current rate is around 1.3-1.8 million EC for a Key.

In a month you can have 20 million EC just from doing the normal 8k daily grind.
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# 25
04-12-2013, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kimmym View Post
If you are looking to do DPS in a fed sci ship, the Atrox is your only option, IMO. Kicks the tail out of my Vesta regularly due to the second rack of elite scorps. If you can handle the big girls, she absolutely rocks.

Tacs actually do better in a Vesta then a sci, IMO. Their captain abilities actually buff the damage of the ship and her console, where in the Atrox so much damage comes from the scorps that tac abilities mean far less.

Sorry, I do not have any first hand experience with boxed ships.
tacs do better in all ships...

also on paper the atrox is beaten by the dreadnought's dps. you lose sensor analysis for another front weapon (and if you go full dps, dhcs you will also have better turnrate) and better boff layout for dealing dmg
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