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# 21
04-13-2013, 01:45 AM
I fly escorts or heavy escorts. However, my free Ambassador T5 ship has been sitting looking at me so I decided to get it out and play. One reason is so I can fly round in an Enterprise

I have a very good plasma build for the Chel Grett or Armitage so I stole as many bits of that as I could and bought some cheapo Mk XI bits for the rest. I have tried it with 6 beams/2 torps, 2 single cannon/hyper torp/experimental array/cutting beam/3 turrets and the same but with 2 DBB - this is the one I have stuck with. I use a 2X EPTW and 2x EPTS build.

It has actually been good fun working how to allocate the meagre tac boff slots (currently TT1, APB1 and THY1) and maximise DPS in ESTFs. With the single cannon or DBB build it gives around 6000DPS in ISE. I was worried this would be a handicap but use of ACT has shown it is ususally the main damage dealer in PUGS ... the rubbish some people bring to the table is shocking!

So, for me, a cruiser is proving fun. I'm sure I will be back in something with a better turn rate and DPS soon but no rush.
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# 22
04-13-2013, 05:08 AM
Oh yes, cruisers can be much fun! It has been my starship of choice since I started playing STO. If you're not here to overwhelm yourself with every single detail and stat and just want to have fun playing STO, you can have a blast in cruisers, regardless of your character's class.
The mixture of that look and class we came to be familiar with from the shows and the sheer durability and reliability of the cruiser makes it a lot of fun to fly, especially if, like myself, you don't overally care how fast you buzz around.
Lately, I'm becomming more and more in love with my Ambassador. I kinda' knew that I'd like it right from the start since I was nagging Cryptic about a sci-oriented cruiser for quite a while before the anniversary. I was not impressed at the start, but it's growing on me fast, something in the way she shoots her beams makes me feel like in a Trek show.

And I need not speak about the KDF battlecruisers, I think that it has been established in STO that they are fantastic and provide silly amounts of fun when flying one.
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# 23
04-13-2013, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by snoggymack22 View Post
Your memory is a bit fuzzy. They did have Vice Admirals at the time you got your Retrofit Defiant.
Your right, my memory is very fuzzy...too much abuse in my 20's
I couldn't remember the exact timeline, sorry for the inconsistancies.

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As far as healers go, the Excelsior isn't exactly the best ship for that.
I agree. I use my Fleet Excelsior as an STF DPS beam boat, I can usually pull 5-6k with it, sometimes as much as 8k depending on the team I'm on. My main healing PvP rig is the Sci Vesta. In that ship I usually pull anywhere from 800k-1.5 mil healing in a typical 15 kill-5v5 match. I didn't include that in the first post because he was asking about cruisers....didn't seem relevant...hehe. I also use the Oddy for a healing rig (don't remember which version) but recently switched to the Vesta because I got sick of overshooting the fight due to the Oddy's increadibly high inertia and low turn rate . I can do just as much, if not more, healing in the Vesta and I can actually turn...LOL

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# 24
04-13-2013, 11:37 AM
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I have a very simple question. Can cruisers be fun? I'm not talking about massive DPS. Can they be fun? No flame wars on Escorts vs. Cruisers vs. Barbies or whatever. I'm not looking for the ultimate build to play. I just want to know from people that have run with Cruisers on whether they can be fun to do. Personally I play a Tac, but I'm curious about Eng and Sci as well.

I'm lvl 50 now, so I'm mainly concerned with end game cruisers. What's enjoyable, what's not. What are people enjoying.
The bigger the better (fun wise). 2x tacs & 1x eng all with cruisers as mainship (the Tacs with Defiant/BoP as secondary collecting dust).

But whats fun to me don't have to be fun to someone else.
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# 25
04-13-2013, 11:45 AM
OP: yes.

I'm playing an Excelsior-Refit because:
1) It looks cool to me
2) Transwarp all over the galaxy = l33+
3) It looks cool to me
4) 4 weapon slots fore and aft = Pew pew light show
5) It looks cool to me

Good luck and have fun
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# 26
04-13-2013, 02:54 PM
Personally, I'm ok with any ship though I play mostly on my Fed Heavy Escort Carrier. I do like cruisers only because they tank. As someone who plays on escorts about 85% of the time it actually gets annoying not to deal the most DPS in the match, but its slightly offset by the fact that I dont get blow apart in 10 sec by a tactical cube.

Don't get me wrong, cruisers and science ships are fun but not as efficient as escorts.

With that said, my favorite cruisers are the Fed dreadnought (if you consider it a cruiser) and fleet version of the Odyssey.
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# 27
04-13-2013, 03:06 PM
cruisers can be fun, not in the same way as the fighter jock defiant buzzing all about way, but they will still add 30 % to your content completion times. comparisons of tau dewa runs make this clear. which takes away from time that could be spent elsewhere.
If you like the RPG trinity, then you hate MMOs, you hate working, competitive fair PvP, you hate balanced engaging solo content,
and,
you hate PvE "adventure zones". because the trinity is incompatible with any of these.
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# 28
04-13-2013, 04:16 PM
The earlier versions are those seen in TMP Kirks era .The TNG ones aren't so great except the oddy with the chevron off.

They don't make criusers like they use to.
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# 29
04-13-2013, 05:00 PM
With the changes to emergency power being considered on Tribble, it's a bad time to be interested in cruisers. I would really suggest waiting to see how that pans out before buying anything.
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# 30
04-14-2013, 05:10 PM
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With the changes to emergency power being considered on Tribble, it's a bad time to be interested in cruisers. I would really suggest waiting to see how that pans out before buying anything.
You mean they are going to gimp Fed Geers more so than they now in way of ships?
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