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# 11
04-14-2013, 10:03 AM
The Elite Peregrine's getting CRF 1 and not HYT will probably still have them playing second fiddle to Elite Scorpions.

The Elite Stalkers could make for some spiffy shennanigans, given they have Battle Cloak and can kill Aux/Cloak like the dickens.

The Elite Mesh Weavers have Attack Pattern Beta 3 and Fire-at-Will. Eww.

Elite Jem Fighters with DEM 3 might add up to nasty (pair with Mesh Weavers and Scorpions for massive hull-hit potential).

Elite Type 10 Shuttles have the same PH1 and twin Phaser Arrays of the Advanced, and gain a micro-photon torp. Nothing to see here, move along.

Elite Shield Repair Units, now with even more hull, maybe enough to make them worth using over the EC variants? At 100k Fleet Credits and 45k dilithium? Not bloody likely!

Elite Delta Flyers get Tachyon Beam 3, no change to the Phaser Array or Transphasic torp noted. Yay for a bit more shield peeling?

Elite Jem Attack Ships get Beam Overload 2 and CRF 3... those would seem to be working at cross purposes, but will probably still be punchy when the attack command is given to two full groups of them.

Elite Yellowstone Runabouts with Tractor Beam 3 and Tetryon Warp Plasma. Hey, uh, if anyone said even Cryptic wouldn't be looney enough to do that... well... maybe gravy will make the crow taste better....
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# 12
04-14-2013, 10:14 AM
The Mesh Weavers and Bugs are going to be restricted enough not to be too much of an issue in most cases.

Stalkers having battlecloak just ups their survivability (which is poor now), but likely won't make too much of a difference.

Poor Type 10s, no one ever uses you, and no one ever will.

Only the Yellowstone is overly dangerous and advantageous to the Feds. The rest is more meh.

It's still not an even field vs the Klingon fighters. BoPs, Slavers, the Felkari frigs and power siphon drones are far more useful than anything except the Yellowstones, and then it's only an even match.

Still would love it if the there was a reason to use Type 10s. Maybe they should drop mines or come out in larger numbers or something. Maybe even have them do their own boarding party actions. That would be nifty.
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# 13
04-14-2013, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by theeishtmo View Post
The Mesh Weavers and Bugs are going to be restricted enough not to be too much of an issue in most cases.

Stalkers having battlecloak just ups their survivability (which is poor now), but likely won't make too much of a difference.

Poor Type 10s, no one ever uses you, and no one ever will.

Only the Yellowstone is overly dangerous and advantageous to the Feds. The rest is more meh.

It's still not an even field vs the Klingon fighters. BoPs, Slavers, the Felkari frigs and power siphon drones are far more useful than anything except the Yellowstones, and then it's only an even match.

Still would love it if the there was a reason to use Type 10s. Maybe they should drop mines or come out in larger numbers or something. Maybe even have them do their own boarding party actions. That would be nifty.

It doesn't matter if their not on an even field those things were deadly enough with a tractor beam to up the quality of the tractor and bring in an EWP is just insane

Klink pets are great for PVE but apart from power siphons which due to several nerfs take a missively specialised build to use they aren't on par from a strategic point of view
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# 14
04-14-2013, 12:23 PM
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# 15
04-14-2013, 12:36 PM
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It's still not an even field vs the Klingon fighters. BoPs, Slavers, the Felkari frigs and power siphon drones are far more useful than anything except the Yellowstones, and then it's only an even match.
And now comapre the actual ships on Klingon side with hangar bays and the ships on Fed side with hangar bays ...

I would say having the armitage and the vesta makes Fed >>>>> klink.
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# 16
04-14-2013, 01:19 PM
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It's about to get a whole lot worse.

As if Danubes with their Tractors weren't bad enough, now they get Tractor Beam 3 and Eject (Tetryon) Warp Plasma.

wtf.

http://i.imgur.com/hwLHSBB.jpg

Danubes get TB 3 + EWP 3, whereas Type 10s get Phaser Arrays, Micro Photons, and Polarize 1? How are these pets even balanced amongst themselves?

These are the stats for the player Tetryon Cloud, except very similar (if not the same) for the NPC version:
Ejects Tetryon Plasma Cloud:
-90% Turn Rate
-66% Impulse Speed
Disables Cloak
50% chance: Disable Engines
I don't know that Cryptic are thinking on this one - seriously out the park. Can they not extrapolate this out further?

Cannot see how a group of anyone can develop this, get together to "test" something like this, and not be dazzled by the obvious effects. {SIGH}
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# 17
04-14-2013, 03:00 PM
elite fleet shields, new traits, eptx, new pets, ... all of this just has to be trolling.

I m done with PvP for a while. Well done systems.

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# 18
04-14-2013, 03:10 PM
a freaking BATTLE-CLOAK for elite stalkers......makes them that much more awesome XD

grr...i STILL want a recluse lol only about 1/3 of the way their in lobi and 1/2 way there in EC.

those Mesh weavers sound cool..unless they are still broken.

25m from TFS...I'll have to ask if that is per pet or a one time thing.

so 200k FC and 90k dilth for a full compliment...or ONE type...that is just a PITA.

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# 19
04-14-2013, 03:12 PM
Putting EWP on a pet is a stupidly bad idea.
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# 20
04-14-2013, 03:15 PM
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a freaking BATTLE-CLOAK for elite stalkers......makes them that much more awesome XD

grr...i STILL want a recluse lol only about 1/3 of the way their in lobi and 1/2 way there in EC.

those Mesh weavers sound cool..unless they are still broken.

im a little scared at what people may charge for access to these pets lol.

so 200k FC and 90k dilth for a full compliment...or ONE type...that is just a PITA.
If you wanna know how much they want for access I can tell you. Its 25mil. So you're probably better off waiting till your fleet or another gets them for cheaper.
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