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# 41
04-14-2013, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tksmitty View Post
I've been thinking of getting an upgrade for my KDF engineer and I'm stuck between the Bortasqu' War and the Fleet Negh'Var.

I know that the Fleet Vor'cha is a more maneuverable ship, but what gives the Bortasqu' the edge in survivability?
Highest DPS of any KDF ship, or any ship in game next to the Kumari (because of the 5th cannon).

And the feeling of flying it just feels like "bad***" when you're pummeling through a group of ships.

It tanks better than the Negh does, and has great firepower. It's in all ways a battleship vs a battle cruiser. It's the Flagship of the KDF fleet for a reason. If you don't care for the mobility of the Vorcha, don't waste the money on the Negh. It's a wannabe Bort, essentially.

The Bortasqu' is by far the best ship I've flown in next to my Guramba and HoH'SuS.

It's WWWAAAAYYYY better than the Dreadnought Carrier. (Jem)
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# 42
04-14-2013, 11:18 PM
The Fleet Neg to me represents the feds version of the Star Cruiser. With the uni slot used as a sci.
And that is a pretty darn good tanker healer.

It's the exact reason I want a Fleet variant of the Orion Marauder, similar Star Cruiser boff layout but with the extra hanger bay.


But yeah the Fleet Neg is definitely mediocre to outdated. iirc Captain Gecko mentioned the fleet Neg will be getting a redo down the track, so hopefully that'll give it something to stand out from the rest.
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# 43
04-15-2013, 01:11 AM
Once that decloaking alpha strike is done with the Bortasqu', all the firepower in the quadrant doesn't mean anything if your ship is too sluggish to bring weapons to bear on a target, especially against nimble craft.
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# 44
04-15-2013, 01:51 AM
the battle cruisers are by far the most interesting ships in the game to me. i love them all, except the bortas, thats not really a battle cruiser, thats an carrier without hangers.


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DDIS is melting faces in one at the moment.
indeed i am!


the best battle cruiser is the fleet ktinga, with its amazing turn rate and lots of eng slots for an AtB build. it can tank like a champ and deal damage like an escort with ease.

a close second is the fleet kamarang, which actually is proboly beter, its more dangerous thanks to some of the offense you can get out of that LTC sci. with the tech doffs though, a heal in that slot wont be beter then a non aux dependent heal like EPtS3, ET3 or RSP2 you can get with the LTC eng. that makes this ship overall less of a tank, and more dangerous.

the fleet neg, my newest toy that i am greatly enjoying, is basically a huge ktinga. you'd run ether ktinga builds or mirror vorcha builds on it though. with 5 turn consoles, and the lobi temporal console, i have the thing turning at over 30 turn rate, it basically spins like a top!


the fleet vorcha is ok, its for people that have never heard of tech doffs. that ship has to much tac and not enough eng for having 2 AtB on it. i hate only having 1 AtB, and thats all that ship can safely hold really. compared to the other battle cruisers, this ship basically has less theoretical station powers and ability up time


hopeful in the future there will be a fleet tkonto, maybe with the excelsior station setup. what a monster that would be! the perfect blend of fleet vorcha and ktinga. i think gecko mentioned a c store negvar special with the regent station setup, that will be great too.
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# 45
04-15-2013, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by eradicator84 View Post
The Fleet Neg to me represents the feds version of the Star Cruiser. With the uni slot used as a sci.
And that is a pretty darn good tanker healer.

It's the exact reason I want a Fleet variant of the Orion Marauder, similar Star Cruiser boff layout but with the extra hanger bay.


But yeah the Fleet Neg is definitely mediocre to outdated. iirc Captain Gecko mentioned the fleet Neg will be getting a redo down the track, so hopefully that'll give it something to stand out from the rest.
I just recently compared stats of different ships, and I honestly saw nothing that makes the Fleet Negh'var really stand out. It's not worth the modules, not when you compare it to the Fleet Tor'kaht. If you were limited in the amount of modules you could obtain, the sensible option would be the Fleet Tor'kaht. . .unless you don't care about turning, in which case just go straight for the Bortas'qu ships.
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# 46
04-15-2013, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by warmaker001b View Post
Once that decloaking alpha strike is done with the Bortasqu', all the firepower in the quadrant doesn't mean anything if your ship is too sluggish to bring weapons to bear on a target, especially against nimble craft.
I've yet to meet a target, PVP or PVE (aside from a Tac Cube, Gate, etc) that could survive the full alpha of the Bort.
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# 47
04-15-2013, 09:48 AM
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I've yet to meet a target, PVP or PVE (aside from a Tac Cube, Gate, etc) that could survive the full alpha of the Bort.
That's because you are scared to PvP me.
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# 48
04-15-2013, 12:47 PM
My engineer is currently flying a Ktinga retrofit, and I've been trying to decide if I wanted to go Fleet Ktinga or Fleet Neghvar when I finally go for a fleet ship for him. The latter looks like it's basically a Ktinga that has bulked up to play nose tackle. I get the feeling I'll be fairly happy with either one.

Later on,
Gen
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# 49
04-15-2013, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by generator88 View Post
My engineer is currently flying a Ktinga retrofit, and I've been trying to decide if I wanted to go Fleet Ktinga or Fleet Neghvar when I finally go for a fleet ship for him. The latter looks like it's basically a Ktinga that has bulked up to play nose tackle. I get the feeling I'll be fairly happy with either one.

Later on,
Gen
If you enjoy the K'Tinga, stick with it. You wont enjoy the Negh as much, because of the size difference is quite dramatic.

Stick to the K'Tinga.
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# 50
04-15-2013, 01:20 PM
I've actually flown a standard Neghvar; it was the free ship I picked up at level 40. My only real complaint was that it just needed a smidge more tac, which the UniEns can provide. The rest is just deciding if the hull/turn/inertia tradeoffs are to my liking (reply hazy, ask again later).

Gen
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