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# 11
04-17-2013, 08:06 AM
Armour and shields with the [Ap] resistance modifiers works best. Klingon crew seems to resist the best, especially in a Chel Gret for some reason.

Just completed my 5th run with a Klingon-crewed Tac Chel Gret. Crew survived intact. The console configuration is identical to my other toons for defence.

The key is (1.) not supply it with energy during the absorption phase, and (2.) be well outside the 10km radius when she sends out her energy cascade.

Unshielded you will take significant damage, based in part on how much she absorbs. It is tankable if you have to, but if you come under attack by shards immediately after, you are finished.
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# 12
04-17-2013, 09:18 AM
So It appears that running the Borg cutting beam is good for this?

The Issue I've got is that my main ship (Caitan Atrox Carrier) is a "shield" stripper, with Pets that do the same. (They all run Tetryon weapons.) But then I choose to hang back and aim for the Tholians so everyone else can take down that thing.
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# 13
04-17-2013, 09:39 AM
I have noticed that with my main character (fed Engineer) while in the kumari the only thing the phasers are good for is base damage without procs unless aiming at the thols. however I also deal plasma damage and kinetic damage thanks to my romulan console and cutting beam so even through I run phasers on that ship I can still contribute regardless what I'm hitting. disruptor/plasma/cutting beam seem to also be a good combo. for this event the cannon spread thing seems to work against the fragments and tholian torpedos/fighters...
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# 14
04-17-2013, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by possumlips View Post
I've heard that electroplating is the best to use against the borg,is there a good hull plating/alloy and weapon to use against the crystal entity?
Well you were lied to about the electroplating for the borg, most damage from the borg is kinetic, not plasma.
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# 15
04-17-2013, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nicha0 View Post
Well you were lied to about the electroplating for the borg, most damage from the borg is kinetic, not plasma.
I have all the ships except for the Vesta's and Kumari's even all the reward pack ships and all the purple MK xii weapons,console upgrades etc.,I just can't seem to get the right combo going. Oh, and I switched out the blue pets for the purple on all my carriers.I wouldn't call it being lied to about which shielding for using against the borg tho,thats a little harsh.Most likely just someone with the wrong info passing it along, or a difference of opion I figure.
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# 16
04-22-2013, 11:36 PM
The majority of the damage is antiproton. But the kinetic damage can be a worry as it hits quite a bit harder. I however only use 1 mk XI Neutronium plating always and for everything. I'm also usually tanking as i'm an engineer tank. Last encounter I received 843,107 damage. I have received over 1mill before. Done this encounter 15 times or so and I've never died doing it yet. I also usually but not always get 1st place. Same encounter I was 1st doing 34% of the 10 peoples damage. And no this doesn't mean i'm kicking some serious arse. I'm only doing a bit over 5k dps. It does mean that pugs do terrible dps. I don't think it matters what weapons you use. Use whatever flavor turns you on. And while kinetic is great vs the entity you have to think about all the adds as well.

The fight is kinda simplistic. Just use the weapons and abilities that should do the most damage. Which is usually more about ability selection and use then actual type of weapon imo. If you want to be support you won't get #1. If you want to heal you won't get #1. Sadly it's all about dps to achieve #1. As usual for all STFs in this game it's all about dps.

Last edited by dragonsbite; 04-22-2013 at 11:51 PM.
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# 17
04-23-2013, 12:17 AM
My most successful character in CE is actually my sci. She runs a heal build with torps.

Two plasma torps and omega up front, two plasma mines in back. Send your heals around for extra points. The CE is less resistent to kinetic damage so it works really well.
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# 18
04-23-2013, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dragonsbite View Post
The majority of the damage is antiproton. But the kinetic damage can be a worry as it hits quite a bit harder. I however only use 1 mk XI Neutronium plating always and for everything. I'm also usually tanking as i'm an engineer tank. Last encounter I received 843,107 damage. I have received over 1mill before. Done this encounter 15 times or so and I've never died doing it yet. I also usually but not always get 1st place. Same encounter I was 1st doing 34% of the 10 peoples damage. And no this doesn't mean i'm kicking some serious arse. I'm only doing a bit over 5k dps. It does mean that pugs do terrible dps. I don't think it matters what weapons you use. Use whatever flavor turns you on. And while kinetic is great vs the entity you have to think about all the adds as well.

The fight is kinda simplistic. Just use the weapons and abilities that should do the most damage. Which is usually more about ability selection and use then actual type of weapon imo. If you want to be support you won't get #1. If you want to heal you won't get #1. Sadly it's all about dps to achieve #1. As usual for all STFs in this game it's all about dps.
Yep, I agree.

Don't support others (in fact, keep firing during the absorb phaser in hope of killing off other players). Yep, that's terribly cynical.

Use a beam-boat/FAW. Sure, the average DPS seems far less than a cannon escort's. But you can keep firing constantly, including on the tholian ships (unlike the CE, far less energy resistant) and fragments chasing you. Unless you are in a premade group, you'll always out-damage everyone else... unless there's someone also using AOE beams & mines/etc.

Plus if you bring a beam-array equipped Kumari to the fight, it will annoy certain people. Bonus points if you do the rainbow.

Emnity doesn't mean you're #1. Just because the CE hates you doesn't mean some other joker's far out-damaging you, pummeling the fragments and tholians.

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Keep your shields up and avoid fragments, you can put something else in place of those armor and shield consoles. It's PvE after all, you're not going up directly against other players.
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# 19
04-23-2013, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by fovrel View Post
A thing I am wondering about is how are destructables like heavy plasmas, tricobaits and the breen cluster performing? It looks to me they get destructed and never reach the target, the CE. Anyhow, I have stopped using those.
I use a straight kinetic build that includes the breen cluster on my brel torp/mine boat the
secret is you need to be a point blank range when you release it along with mines, its
killer Im always on top in dmg but then I run a PvP build for everything..
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# 20
04-23-2013, 10:58 AM
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Yep, I agree.

Don't support others (in fact, keep firing during the absorb phaser in hope of killing off other players). Yep, that's terribly cynical.

Use a beam-boat/FAW. Sure, the average DPS seems far less than a cannon escort's. But you can keep firing constantly, including on the tholian ships (unlike the CE, far less energy resistant) and fragments chasing you. Unless you are in a premade group, you'll always out-damage everyone else... unless there's someone also using AOE beams & mines/etc.

Plus if you bring a beam-array equipped Kumari to the fight, it will annoy certain people. Bonus points if you do the rainbow.

Emnity doesn't mean you're #1. Just because the CE hates you doesn't mean some other joker's far out-damaging you, pummeling the fragments and tholians.

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Keep your shields up and avoid fragments, you can put something else in place of those armor and shield consoles. It's PvE after all, you're not going up directly against other players.
Oddly I actually do the encounter the correct way. I've yet to get hit by 1 shard. I fly around the entity constantly and try to agro all adds. This isn't overly successful as they're very spread out. And they knock my weapons offline quite often as I specced out of power insulators. I switch targets and concentrate on tholians when absorb phase starts and hold off on FAW. I then go out beyond 10km until the wave is over, not many people do this. And combat log trackers never lie. At least not when you use the correct plugin. Most of my damage is against the tholian adds, 2nd is shards and last is the entity.

At least your advise at the end was correct.

Last edited by dragonsbite; 04-23-2013 at 11:08 AM.
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