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# 11
04-17-2013, 12:58 PM
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Honestly, all I want is for player versions of the Orion Corvette and Gorn Vishap Frigate to be made available as alternatives to the starter BoP when we get to start at lvl 1 again (maybe a Nausicaan Syphon Frigate too). Those and a Fleet Dacoit. Anything else is gravy.
I agree. The Corvette and the Vishap really would be a nice addition and give escort pilots another option besides Klingon ships.

Other than that, I'd love to see a contemporary Klingon, small, agile, dedicated Science ship along the lines of the Nova.
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# 12
04-17-2013, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by marshalericdavid View Post
K'Vort class Bird of Prey is most needed and is missing from the game and all I can think is why is it not in the game already.
The reason is, I suspect, its that is visual identical to the B'rel ... I did expected the Anniversary to give a K'Vort because as the Ambassador its one of those ships that is requested and it would have cost very little to Cryptic to add it as its very much a larger B'rel.

And I guess they dont want 2 ships that look the same having different capabilities.
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# 13
04-17-2013, 03:58 PM
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Honestly, we really need an escort-esque ship with 5 tac consoles that isn't the Bug.

And maybe we should also be asking for what we DON'T want as well. Like I don't want another Battlecruiser. I'm looking forward to my Fleet Negh'var and everything, but we don't really need more BCs.

Also, wouldn't mind a Lethean-built ship of some kind, I don't care what it is.
Agreed, a break from battlecruisers would be nice. I like fighting alongside 'em, but all we've been 'getting' is battlecruisers, when we REALLY want a few more options in terms of raptors and destroyers at the Fleet/Lt. General level. We have four Fleet battlecruisers, but only three Fleet Raptors/Destroyers, and the Destroyer doesn't have a built-in cloak. Get that number up to 5-6 Raptors/Destroyers, and give us a better Flight-Deck carrier to match the friggin Armitage.
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# 14
04-17-2013, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mimey2 View Post
Honestly, we really need an escort-esque ship with 5 tac consoles that isn't the Bug.

And maybe we should also be asking for what we DON'T want as well. Like I don't want another Battlecruiser. I'm looking forward to my Fleet Negh'var and everything, but we don't really need more BCs.

Also, wouldn't mind a Lethean-built ship of some kind, I don't care what it is.
Agreed. No more battlecruiser. We want a real escort with 5 tac consoles!

And if the devs really don't want to make another raptor (although that may be the most popular option) why not a Fek'Ihri K'Norr Escort with a phased shift console?

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# 15
04-17-2013, 04:20 PM
I'd be happy with a BoP with a third rear weapon. They're not keeping up with the newer escorts and the defensive creep that's been happening.
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# 16
04-17-2013, 06:23 PM
1st on my wishlist: K'Vort Bird of Prey. Gimme that super heavy disruptor cannons, 5 tac consoles. Call it a battlecruiser ffs. since it was called so in TNG. Just gimme a proper bop with supersized, mean wingtip cannons. Nao !

2nd: Nausicaan flight deck cruiser/ heavy escort carrier triple pack. A horizontal design, following the design principles of the destroyer escort. Just bigger. Delivered with a set of stinger fighters. Leaning towards eng/sci to complement the escort line.

3rd: Tuatara/Draguas cruiser triple pack. The design looks very compact, manouverable and tough. A ship for all the Gorn tac/eng captains out there.

4th: Lethan bird of prey. Since a bop is just the perfect ship for a Lethean assasin.

5th: Orion combat explorer triple pack. Some kind of crossbreed between fleet Nova and Vesta. Leaning towards sci/tac to complement the flying pigs out there.

Yeah, no bloody kitty ship. Go away with this manga crap.
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# 17
04-17-2013, 06:37 PM
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I'd be happy with a BoP with a third rear weapon. They're not keeping up with the newer escorts and the defensive creep that's been happening.
I sometimes dream of a 5 fore 2 aft BoP.........
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# 18
04-17-2013, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
Agreed. No more battlecruiser. We want a real escort with 5 tac consoles!

And if the devs really don't want to make another raptor (although that may be the most popular option) why not a Fek'Ihri K'Norr Escort with a phased shift console?
Heck, they could start with an upgrade to the Guramba. It's still a competitive vessel, but maybe something with more hull, an additional turnrate point, an extra engineering or science console slot (or, le gasp, a 5th tactical console slot), a bit more in the way of shields. . .good stuff.

Or they could upgrade the Draguas or Phalanx Gorn ships and give us more dedicated science ships, and give the Federation the finger when they start complaining about it. But now I'm just dreaming. . .
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# 19
04-18-2013, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
The reason is, I suspect, its that is visual identical to the B'rel ... I did expected the Anniversary to give a K'Vort because as the Ambassador its one of those ships that is requested and it would have cost very little to Cryptic to add it as its very much a larger B'rel.

And I guess they dont want 2 ships that look the same having different capabilities.
Maybe...but I think it would be relatively easy to make them different enough.
They'd just need to compensate for the limitations of the original by adding details like rows of small windows and escape pods.
The K'vorts in "Redemption" had a different colour scheme with a stronger green and grey details where they should be black.
Also the K'vort has its wings locked in a position close to the horizontal while the B'rel in this game has them either all the way up or down.
That would give the players something to mentally seperate them from the other version.
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# 20
04-18-2013, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by aurigas7 View Post
1st on my wishlist: K'Vort Bird of Prey. Gimme that super heavy disruptor cannons, 5 tac consoles. Call it a battlecruiser ffs. since it was called so in TNG. Just gimme a proper bop with supersized, mean wingtip cannons. Nao !
You know that one is the follow up to the throne of ugly and abomination? Right after the fugly Hoh'SuS.
I do want those cannons..

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I'd be happy with a BoP with a third rear weapon. They're not keeping up with the newer escorts and the defensive creep that's been happening.
I fail to see why a 3rd aft slot would be even remotely useful on a BoP. With the turn rate as high as that, you shouldn't even need aft weapons imho..

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I sometimes dream of a 5 fore 2 aft BoP.........
^^ This ^^
Maybe the game should be renamed to BoP online if this gets through.

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I would not mind a 5 forward 3 aft Battle Cruiser with 5 tac console slots for the Klingons.
Imho this should have been the default layout for KDF battle cruisers and 4-4 for Fed cruisers.
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