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# 11
04-17-2013, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by voyagerfan9751 View Post
But I am not sure a Playable Faction is doable.
It absolutely is. It would be like the colony that Chakotay helped when he linked with them. Or like Hugh's colony, without the negative influence of Lore. Or like the ones that went into the dream place. A playable sub-faction is definitely possible. In fact, that's kind of the thrust of at least two separate story lines in Voyager through the latter seasons. Heh.
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# 12
04-17-2013, 09:55 PM
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In any game where borg have been playable, even just making them slightly as powerful compared to how they were seen on TV has made them riddiculously OP like in Star Trek Armada 1 and 2, and Starfleet Command 3.

Borg faction would be bad for the game, it would either be balanced and feel nothing like being the borg except for having borg ship skins, or it would be OP if it were to be accurate.
Woah, slow down homie. The Borg in STO have long been established as being far far far weaker than they were shown in the Television shows. No need to think that would change just because they get their own faction.

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The way STO is structured right now, the Ferengi wouldn't make a lot of sense. Crafting's barely worth the time you put into it nowadays, and trading/selling is accessible by everyone and prices are determined by the market.
The Ferengi Alliance has a military. In fact the Picard Maneuver is famous because the Ferengi Alliance has a military.
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# 13
04-17-2013, 10:45 PM
Borg as a faction... why not, but at the end of the line behind say Cardassians or Dominions.

Let's flesh out the alpha/beta quadrant faction/species and we can see about stuff like Borg...

As far as Ferengi, they hold so little territory as a governmental organization (Ferengi Alliance) and their military strength is weak compare to the other powers. I would keep them as a neutral NPC trading 'faction'

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# 14
04-17-2013, 11:11 PM
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Star Trek Armada and Armada 2 had playable borg, so it's not that far fetched an idea.
Yes, but those are RTS games..NOT MMOs

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# 15
04-18-2013, 12:57 AM
I personally feel a Borg faction should not be done, they are so totally different that the uniqueness and flexibility that goes into character creation and identity just couldn't work for them. Unless it was like a group of liberated drones like from Voyager Unimatrix Zero episodes. But still why even bother. If Cryptic wants more factions go with a True Way faction satisfies both Dominion and Cardassian fans and keeps in line with the factions we currently have.

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Star Trek Armada and Armada 2 had playable borg, so it's not that far fetched an idea.
Being from that community and modding it for some 11+ years, I say say it works for an RTS not a MMO like STO. The Borg are a bad idea period and with the Romulans coming I don't think we need another faction and this comes from a Cardassian fan.
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Cryptic is sloppy. Breaking News at 11. This is what happens when there is no outline or plan and you just make up **** as you go along.
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# 16
04-18-2013, 12:59 AM
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Star Trek Armada and Armada 2 had playable borg, so it's not that far fetched an idea.
Yeah, but in Armada you essentially played a branch of the collective that remotely controlled "your" ships.
In STO you'd play an individual drone...that's a totally different story.
There's a reason this has been compared to a screensaver, because then the collective would dictate your actions just like you dictated the actions of your ships in Armada.

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# 17
04-18-2013, 01:12 AM
Borrowed quote from a thread on the very same subject:
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If you actually played a proper Borg character on a proper Borg ship, YOU wouldn't be in control of anything.
You'd be the drone in the bowels of the ship who's job it is to stand in an alcove for half a day, stick it's arm implant into the Borg coffee machine to make it work, ignore intruders and then be the one who gets shot so the other drones can adapt.


So very true.

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# 18
04-18-2013, 01:22 AM
I don't think the Borg is a faction that couldn't be possible. It wouldn't take much imagination to come up with a backstory. Ok it would probably be that the Borg faction would come as a Liberated Borg faction if we follow suit to what cryptic have done with the Romulans and then have a short series of missions explaining how we left the Borg etc and than having to choose to ally with the Feds or KDF.
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# 19
04-18-2013, 01:32 AM
The best method for introducing the Borg as a faction would be to utilise the Borg seen in 'Unimatrix Zero' (Voyager episode) - the ones on General Korok's sphere for example, who were still, for all intents and purposes, Borg but were independant due to being able to access unimatrix zero.

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# 20
04-18-2013, 01:45 AM
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The best method for introducing the Borg as a faction would be to utilise the Borg seen in 'Unimatrix Zero' (Voyager episode) - the ones on General Korok's sphere for example, who were still, for all intents and purposes, Borg but were independant due to being able to access unimatrix zero.
Exactly they were still Borg who were all linked together but were not part of the collective. We never knew what happened to those Borg.
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