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# 11
04-18-2013, 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by snoggymack22 View Post
I'm not sure what you expected out of it. It was shown to be slower than the Galaxy in the shows. And bigger. It was always going to have a turn rate that made it prohibitive to play in this game. This game is slanted towards speed, agility and cannon based firepower. Since the D'Deridex won't be a carrier, it was always going to be too slow to compete in this game.

The D"Deridex was also supposed to have more firepower then the Galaxy, which is why Picard was always hesitant to fight one solo, and prefered to talk, or have allies like Klingon Vorcha's show up to help. I don't think the Enterprise itself ever managed to solo a D'Deridex.

So while I would like a little better turn, that is not the main fault I see in it, I am concerned with the boff layout mostly. I know this game is slanted towards cannons, I use DHC on everything that can mount them, even a Bortasqu, I am experienced enough to make slow turn ships work with DHC, but I can't do it if it has the horrible boff layout of a Galaxy. If they are going to make the ship have bad turn, it better get 5 tac consoles and Lt Cmdr tac at least like a bort does.
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# 12
04-18-2013, 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by auric2000 View Post
The Speed is not a issue. Its the lack of fire power thats gets me.
Exactly my point. If the D'Deridex is going to turn as slow as the Bortasqu, it better hit like one.
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# 13
04-18-2013, 07:56 PM
Like I been saying just give it a Lt.Cmdr tactical.
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# 14
04-18-2013, 08:03 PM
Thats not enough. It needs 5 tac consoles, or 4 tac consoles and sensor analysis, and a super weapon console that can deal massive damage like the autocannon, and some type of universal boff station. The only thing that makes a ship with turn as bad as the Bortas worth flying is those features, and even then, most players still can't put up with the turn rate.
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# 15
04-18-2013, 08:03 PM
It needs at least LtC Sci. Otherwise it cannot do any of the things we actually SAW it do in the game, like VM or PSW.
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# 16
04-18-2013, 08:09 PM
The only thing making the D'Deridex fail to me is that damn Ensign Engineer.
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# 17
04-18-2013, 08:12 PM
Originally Posted by captiandata1 View Post
there i actually no reason why the D'Deridex has to be any slower turning then the federation galaxy class because yes the D'Deridex i twice the hight of the galaxy class. while the D'Deridex is about the same total weight at the galaxy class because of the massively large open sections between the upper and lower wing and the romulan warp/quantam necells.
promethius: "advanced escort"(trololololol)

Dimensions : Length : 415 m2
Beam : 163 m3
Height : 64 m3
Decks : 15

Mass :
2,100,000 metric tons
turn rate 15

cheyenne: "heavy cruiser"
Dimensions : Length : 394 m2
Beam : 250 m
Height : 113 m
Decks : 20
Mass : 1,305,000 metric tons
turn rate 8

its pretty obvious where the devs interests are.
unless the deri gets re-branded it will get scudded hardcore, because if it didnt there would be no room for the excuses used to leave the big ships in this game as targets for ships that amount to being star fighters. and no excuse for leaving similar sized ships so out of whack with each other just to keep the bogus 'class' stats.
Figure out and address the players path of least resistance to reward. this one thing is THE consistent factor undermining all your efforts. be that crafting, raids or starbase projects.

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# 18
04-18-2013, 08:32 PM
Originally Posted by captainbmoney View Post
The only thing making the D'Deridex fail to me is that damn Ensign Engineer.
That is number 1 on my list of issues I have with this ship right now anyway.
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# 19
04-18-2013, 08:56 PM
People need to calm the eff down. What's on Tribble right now is very unlikely to be the final stage of the ships. You're all in danger of working yourselves into another foaming-at-the-mouth frenzy about the Romulan faction being shortchanged, just like you did with the announcement.

Just sit down and watch, stop speculating yourselves into disappointment.
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# 20
04-18-2013, 09:22 PM
Oh look the Devs have slaughter another iconic ship... Well there's $25 they wont get from me then. -_-

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