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# 31
04-18-2013, 11:01 PM
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Exactly. D'D must be released with as much as crappier setup as possible, so the cry of fanboys crashes the forums. After that, there will be no choice except to buff it, and when it happens, Galaxy must be improved as well, in order to be consistent with the IP.

Help me Obi Wan D'Deridex you're my only hope...
It doesn't mean it has to be released with crappy stats, they can fix it now and you have your justification for wanting the galaxy fixed.
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# 32
04-18-2013, 11:01 PM
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The D"Deridex was also supposed to have more firepower then the Galaxy, which is why Picard was always hesitant to fight one solo, and prefered to talk, or have allies like Klingon Vorcha's show up to help. I don't think the Enterprise itself ever managed to solo a D'Deridex.
So if it turns slower but has DHCs it WOULD have more firepower than a Galaxy. As far as piccard.. well, you know, it was picard for crying out loud! The poster child for lame captainship in any combat situation.
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....you are a bad starship captain and you should feel bad.
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However, I think with regard to the Romulan Republic player characters/npcs, it all comes down to a finite point:

These are not the Romulans from the shows.
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# 33
04-18-2013, 11:07 PM
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It doesn't mean it has to be released with crappy stats, they can fix it now and you have your justification for wanting the galaxy fixed.
Well that would skip the forum rage explosion part, which would make it less dramatic.

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So if it turns slower but has DHCs it WOULD have more firepower than a Galaxy. As far as piccard.. well, you know, it was picard for crying out loud! The poster child for lame captainship in any combat situation.
Maybe the fact he did carry hundreds of civilians did affect his available options. But what can I know ?
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# 34
04-18-2013, 11:18 PM
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I honestly don't know what people are expecting here. The D'Deridex has always been a huge whale, even more than the Galaxy. Expecting anything higher than the turnrate of a carrier or dreadnought is a silly fantasy.
anyone who saw the episodes of the romulan d'deridex in TNG will realize the thing is alot more maneuverable then is given credit for. while isnt have the outright manuverability of something like a Prometheus class ship, it isnt far behind that. the only thing it really lacks is a strong warp speed, these things usually cant go above warp 8, even if they did go over the warp limit for extended travel time it would burn out the engines. so the original warbird the t4 ship would have no higher then a singularity core that can take the engines no faster then that unless equipped with borg engines. as for the retrofit, thats another matter entirely since stuff would be replaced. when in local space its maneuverable enough and quick despite the thoughts of it being heavy.
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Captain
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# 35
04-18-2013, 11:41 PM
We have never seen a Warbird make any kind of high-speed maneuver outside of very brief bursts explainable by EM. The rest of the time it just sits there, being fat and warbirdy.

The bigger question is, "Why can't it do any of the things we presently see it do in game?". It has no boff seating for VM, PSW, or any of the nasty things it does to you in-game.

But yeah, you're stuck with the D'Derpidex. You knew it was gonna be bad the moment they said "Firepower Comparable To a Galaxy".
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# 36
04-18-2013, 11:52 PM
At least it has a battle cloak....well all Romulan ships have battle cloak.

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# 37
04-19-2013, 12:08 AM
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People need to calm the eff down. What's on Tribble right now is very unlikely to be the final stage of the ships. You're all in danger of working yourselves into another foaming-at-the-mouth frenzy about the Romulan faction being shortchanged, just like you did with the announcement.

Just sit down and watch, stop speculating yourselves into disappointment.
no. Cryptic has a really bad track record on this kind of issue so piping up NOW is the right time to do it. Especially if they expect people to dump money on their expansion.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 38
04-19-2013, 12:16 AM
hmm a turn rate of 2 huh? it makes my ATROX turn like a sci ship lol...edit: i did read on another thread that it has a 5.5 turnrate...

and WTH devs.....TAC and ENG based -_- is should be tac and sci based to match the NPC version...this will make me hold off on that legacy pack thats for sure....not until we get official stats..

yes the NPC version doesnt have ANY eng abilites....
http://www.stowiki.org/D%27deridex_Battleship

That is how i would see the player version....but maybe a commander tac with, lt eng lt com sci. and perhaps an ensign universal?

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I find this line of replies sadly hilarious. We put a lot of work into the massive list of fixes/changes above, and ya'll are hung up on the ability to skip our content. =p

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Captain
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# 39
04-19-2013, 12:28 AM
Turn 2 is typo. 5.5 is the right number.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 40
04-19-2013, 12:33 AM
yup i saw that...Boff layout is crap though from what I've read...why do the devs have to be lazy (great job with the story so far for the romulans though)and copy/paste.....especially of a ship that has been yelled about for months now at how bad it is.

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I find this line of replies sadly hilarious. We put a lot of work into the massive list of fixes/changes above, and ya'll are hung up on the ability to skip our content. =p
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