Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 2011
04-19-2013, 02:11 AM
There is a tactic in cure where people blow up cubes early in CSE, even one at a time. Can't be done without high dps or good crowd control skills. You might not believe it, heck you might think me insane for saying it, but from my experience it's definitely a lot faster to blow one cube at a time. Really doesn't work if your team can't coordinate, hardly nothing ever work without team effort though .
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,041
# 2012
04-19-2013, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by deokkent View Post
There is a tactic in cure where people blow up cubes early in CSE, even one at a time. Can't be done without high dps or good crowd control skills. You might not believe it, heck you might think me insane for saying it, but from my experience it's definitely a lot faster to blow one cube at a time. Really doesn't work if your team can't coordinate, hardly nothing ever work without team effort though .
RML is ofc faster. you spend less time travelling in empty space
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Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,729
# 2013
04-19-2013, 11:33 AM
^Very true .

I have to admit though, it's a little counter productive when the veteran crowd don't explain the tactic to the average pugmate. I always assume they're following the strategy from stowiki, and I always ask what strategy my teammates are using just to be safe. Really can't be surprised people are whining because a cube was blown too early.
Reality is WAR
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Captain
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,181
# 2014
04-19-2013, 12:13 PM
Yesterday someone entered Infected: Manus (Elite) using a EV Suit and I knew the optional was hopeless and it was not only because he was using crappy gear but also he got to close to the rooms with the officers. We had been lucky to save a few but I knew are luck would run out and it did early in the game.

I just don't know what people are thinking using EV Suits in Elite missions. I am starting to think people are doing it to annoy other people. I have seen 3 different people doing it the last couple of weeks and all 3 of them I have seen doing it multiple times.
Ensign
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 24
# 2015
04-19-2013, 05:31 PM
Ugh. Just failed the optional on elite infected the conduit because someone had apparently completely disabled chat or was completely ignoring it. On the left side the first thing they did in their galaxy dreadnaught was kill a generator. After killing the transformer (which took several minutes, sigh) I patiently explained to them why it was a bad idea. no reply.

We go to right side, and I obviously wasted my time - before the cube was even down the gal-x was lancing one of the generators. He then backed off to 40km and played around with a sphere for the rest of the match.

I hate trolls.
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 247
# 2016 Wow
04-20-2013, 07:51 AM
I just had a super good one.

CSN

I pug in and say 'hi' as usual.

Everyone says hi back.

I fly right and start on the nodes.

A second escort with AP cannons and Cruiser with phased polaron follow.

We destroy everything including the cube in under a minute.

We fly to cube two where another escort with AP is pounding away.

The escort with me flys on to cube three which is also under fire.

Cube two dies in seconds and I head towards the Kang and kill a raptor.

Cube three dies just as the raptor dies and someone hails the Kang.

All this in under three minutes.

The carrier dies in seconds.

If say the whole thing took less than 4 minutes and the Kang never took a shot.

Good team!
Captain
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,181
# 2017
04-21-2013, 11:57 AM
Today seems to be a bad day to do Crystalline Catastrophe mission because their is a lot of leeching going on in it. 1 mission failed because of multiple leechers in it in addition to multiple idiots dying so much from getting to close to the entity and getting hit by a lot of fragments. Some people started leaving when the entity was able to heal faster then damage was being done and I decided to leave as well because I felt it was hopeless.

Their was other time doing the mission that had some leechers that was able to be complete but it took much longer then it should of. I am so sick of all the leeching that has been going on especially lately that it is happening more often.
Captain
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,914
# 2018
04-21-2013, 03:05 PM
With such rewards and the downright boring nature of the mission i guess leeching was inevitable.

Contrary to last weekend i actually found several Pugs which, although not chatty on team channel, ran through the ESTF like a warm knife through butter.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,653
# 2019
04-21-2013, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by akistos View Post
Pugging for The Cure Found elite is ASKING for a failure.

I inevitably have to PM someone who isn't watching Team chat and say "don't blow up the cube yet or raptors will start spawning."

I've not ONCE had a person listen. The inevitable raptor spam winds up overwhelming the team and destroying the kang.

I actually had a person try to argue with me after the match saying it was "probes, spawns, probes, spawns, cube, then move to second cube."

Ugh. Stupid people make an already precarious mission even worse. Learn the game you moronic pugs.
That tactic he described ONLY WORKS UNDER TIGHT CONDITIONS...or in "Normal". If you're still working the first set of probes and someone's already been shot down, you really can't "Zipper" each stack in turn-you have to work it systematically-kill all the probes on all three stacks, THEN start zapping cubes either right-to-left, or left-to-right.

It's a matter of DPS. Most PuGs are Fed, most PuGs in Elites have very little PvP experience and even have trouble in SB24 missions, most don't know how to set up a ship, or don't 'get' that you can adjust your power-levels or use presets to boost your damage, sheilds, or engines depending on the situation.

Worst recent one for me, was two grayed out early, I'm in a Vor'cha (not exactly sooper-DPS machine) drawing aggro off of a Kumari, while his buddy zippered the right side with the other two stacks intact.

All the Warp Plasma in the UNIVERSE isn't going to hold seven raptors, 1 Negh'var, and eight Assimilated Bops off the Kang while the Vesta and the Beam-boat Rainbow skittle defiant with six injuries respawn.

The mission took less than 3 minutes to fail. THIS is how you fail at Cure Space Elite, RML works just about every time in "Normal", it ONLY works in Cure ELITE if MOST of the team are running "hot ships" with the right power settings, good builds, and a working strategy.
"when you're out of Birds of Prey, you're out of ships."
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,041
# 2020
04-22-2013, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by akistos View Post
I actually had a person try to argue with me after the match saying it was "probes, spawns, probes, spawns, cube, then move to second cube."

Ugh. Stupid people make an already precarious mission even worse. Learn the game you moronic pugs.
newsflash, his tactic could work of anyone is half decent in the group, so lets stop bashing those people who know a bit about advanced (rml advanced, lolwut?) tactics
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