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Survivor of Romulus
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# 11
04-19-2013, 03:08 PM
I'm completely cool with that. In fact, I kinda' expected that. The Romulans always had cloaks and I have no issues with them having battlecloaks as a gimmick to their faction.
Also, I don't mind the 'Fedroms' as someone said, as long as they are flying Romulan ships and I don't encounter Excelsior or a Galaxy that will cloak. That'd be awkward for me.

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# 12
04-19-2013, 04:45 PM
I have no issues with Battlecloaks for the Rommies, makes sense as others have said. I just think the BOP line for the KDF might need a bit of a buff as wasn't they given such a terrible fragile hull because of it? I know they have all universal BOFF stations (which the Romulan's don't have) so I wouldn't expect a huge buff, but just some more hull resistance would be nice.

Either way I think they made the right call about the Battlecloaks for the Romulans, they are the Cloaking masters after all.

My only concern will be PvP due to the fact the Romulans can join the Federation side. But considering PvP is just a small minority it won't affect a lot of players I think.

I was reading in the Zone chat on Tribble yesterday and all but one person said they will be joining the KDF with their Romulans. The only one who said he would go Fed is because of his fleet. I kindly reminded him there are a lot of cool people on the KDF side and they would welcome any new players with open arms.

Mr Stahl was on chat as well and I asked him if they are going to be shorting out the server issues, elastic banding etc. He said they were looking into it. I just hope it wasn't to shut me up. Also another funny thing in chat, one guy said that 80% of this games population are retarded. Not a word I would use. But then I said, 80% you mean as in the Federation playerbase, considering the KDF is only 18%? He never responded.

I went Fed with my test Romulan just to see what they have that the KDF doesn't and guess what (my son went KDF) and the missions are the same. And considering end-game content is shared anyway between the factions the only thing that will be the difference is c-store ships which if you're a Romulan why would you fly a Defiant or Galaxy when you can fly a Warbird with it's cool gimmicks. I can only imaging grabbing consoles for your Warbird and the KDF have the better consoles in any case.
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# 13
04-19-2013, 08:42 PM
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Your post was going so well, and then you needed to start attacking the Feds.
After thinking about it, I feel that you're right.

I really probably shouldn't have allowed my old feelings about playing on the KDF-side, so my emotions got the hold of me for that. It's just happened SO much over time I've simply gotten tired of it is all.

For my remarks though, I do apologize. I'll try and not be so quick to judge, as it were, about something that might not even happen.



Though I am eagerly looking forward playing Romulans, because their unique battle cloak will be VERY interesting to try and use. Being part of the closed beta atm, I've been using it already, though stats and such could change it on between now and official release.

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# 14
04-19-2013, 11:29 PM
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...and I'm ok with that.

Sure this BC is a Romulan Battlecloak, and provides a turn rate bonus and speed bonus while cloaked.

Even so, that's fine to me. I highly enjoy playing my Klingon toons, and seeing this on Romulan ships is alright.

There's gonna be lots and lots of Feddies who go Romulan knowing about their BCs, hop in a Romulan ship with one and...quickly discover it isn't the 'mega-ultra-super-OP 'I-win' button' they seem to think it is.



So, let the Romulan ships have cloaks and battlecloaks, that's fine. As we KDF players realized a long time ago: Cloaking is a useful and strategic thing to have, particularly a BC, but it isn't as good as many seem to think.

Besides, there's still a ton of anti-cloaking stuff out there. I might even get the Nebula ships so I can make a snooper.

Oh yes, I wonder how long it'll take before the whining begins for Federation cloaking ships to gain that speed and turn-rate bonus.

Eh, I dunno dude. These aren't 20k hull raptors. We're talking about full blown escorts and cruisers with battle cloak. They're going to be pretty damn strong in PvP.

Not that I object, I'm ok with the Romulans getting battle cloaks. I didn't fly BoPs anyway. I just think you might be underestimating what a battle cloak on a full fledged escort will be capable of. Both the Mogai and T'varo look to be amazingly good PvP ships, and that's even before seeing what their fleet variants look like.

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# 15
04-19-2013, 11:34 PM
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Eh, I dunno dude. These aren't 20k hull raptors. We're talking about full blown escorts and cruisers with battle cloak. They're going to be pretty damn strong in PvP.

Not that really care, I'm ok with the Romulans getting battle cloaks. I didn't fly BoPs anyway. I just think you might be underestimating what a battle cloak on a full fledged escort will be capable of.
Of course, they will be strong in PvP. After all, they have Battle Cloaks and Singularity powers. The only problem with Romulans is that almost everyone will be going for Plasma energy weapons and Plasma Torpedoes.
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# 16
04-20-2013, 10:17 AM
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the only thing that will be the difference is c-store ships which if you're a Romulan why would you fly a Defiant or Galaxy when you can fly a Warbird with it's cool gimmicks. I can only imaging grabbing consoles for your Warbird and the KDF have the better consoles in any case.
And since they've currently noted that players can neither purchase nor claim their $allegiance's tier V ships (down under "Allied Ships"), what ship you're flying is even less of an issue. (Ironically, I think the KDF gets better lower-tier consoles anyway.)
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# 17
04-20-2013, 10:51 AM
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I have no issues with Battlecloaks for the Rommies, makes sense as others have said. I just think the BOP line for the KDF might need a bit of a buff as wasn't they given such a terrible fragile hull because of it? I know they have all universal BOFF stations (which the Romulan's don't have) so I wouldn't expect a huge buff, but just some more hull resistance would be nice.
The downside for the Romulans is that they have an almost constant power drain on all systems built into the ship, and not just during cloak, ALWAYS.
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# 18
04-20-2013, 11:40 AM
The only issue I have is the cost. KDF take a hit on their shields the Roms take a hit on ship's power base level. Not sure how that will play out, and I haven't seen any spec's on their Sci ships, Raiders, or Escorts. But, it has potential of being a good choice for a unique balancing factor.

Most of the larger ship specs I've seen have a crappy turnrates, so things like ewp would be easy enough to keep them from recloaking. The ship w/a 14 turnrate looks comparable to the KDF Vet ship. Seems reasonable to me all in all.
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# 19
04-20-2013, 11:44 AM
I agree with the rest of you guys, Rommies should have Battle Cloaks on all of their ships (since they invented the dang thing :p)

I'm also cool with the Enhanced Battle Cloak on the T5 T'Varo Warbird Retrofit (the 22nd BoP that Rommies use), now there are two factions that can use that power . I was actually disappointed that the 22nd Cent BoP didnt have Universal slots like KDF BoP's, but oh well, me likies the EBC nonetheless
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# 20
04-20-2013, 12:53 PM
The scimitar should have a super enhanced battle cloak - it could fire disruptors and torps while cloaked AND also had shields!! while cloaked!

It was essentially unbeatable - only reason Picard stopped it was because they decided to park in front of the crippled Sov so they could ram her.

I same game balance be damed!! make her able to mop the floor with 2 Mogai and a Sov at the same time.
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