Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 631
04-20-2013, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
I'm fairly certain it's not, for reasons I'm sure you can guess
So what's the reason we have to guess? Cause the "updated" model is just the Warbird from Enterprise, which technically is even older. And have you seen the DBB/DHC hardpoints at the front of the nacelles on that thing? Looks absolutly stupid and the TOS Warbird at least comes with proper hardpoints.
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Rihannsu
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# 632
04-20-2013, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
I'm fairly certain it's not, for reasons I'm sure you can guess

Edit: I think it ended up being the placeholder because it was the first playable Warbird we made for the new faction.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
I assume you mean the whole connie debate.

dstahl did mention on a podcast that there would be a tier 5 version. maybe he was getting mixed up with the ENT one (which we know we do have).

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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jan 2013
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# 633
04-20-2013, 06:05 AM
Why does this have "MONEYGRAB" written all over it? The thing is not even out yet.

In normal economics, decent products get decent revenue. You deliver something good, you get good money in return.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 634
04-20-2013, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pendra3780 View Post
Why does this have "MONEYGRAB" written all over it? The thing is not even out yet.

In normal economics, decent products get decent revenue. You deliver something good, you get good money in return.
Buy it as a pre-order bundle, get a 30% discount. Buy it individually in the C-Store later, get no discount. Seems simple.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Captain
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Posts: 549
# 635
04-20-2013, 07:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
I'm fairly certain it's not, for reasons I'm sure you can guess

Edit: I think it ended up being the placeholder because it was the first playable Warbird we made for the new faction.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
I asked dan (during the p1 stream of the beta) about it being a t5 end game ship the tos bop and he said a maybe as he hasnt decided yet. So there is a chance.
Survivor of Remus
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# 636
04-20-2013, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lordhavelock View Post
As the Devil's Advocate, I'd like to point out your statement is not entirely true, from a certain point of view... LTS Accounts, in fact all Gold Members, get a 500 Zen monthly stipend that they can use to make C-Store purchases. Some might consider that "free" C-Store items.
Not to mention, LTS (and Veterans over a certain number of days) get a number of VA ships for free that are otherwise C-store only. This includes the Galaxy, Intrepid and Defiant retrofits on the fed side and an equal selection of (most people agree better) ships on KDF: Karfi, Marauder, Brel retrofit, Veranus, maybe others.
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# 637
04-20-2013, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by thecosmic1 View Post
Buy it as a pre-order bundle, get a 30% discount. Buy it individually in the C-Store later, get no discount. Seems simple.
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Survivor of Remus
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Posts: 315
# 638
04-20-2013, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jaturnley View Post
Just FYI, the T5 ship included in the starter pack is indeed a RA ship. VA ships are things like the Assault Cruiser and Star Cruiser - 9 console slots, with no special console, given out when you hit RA or bought with dilithium from the ship vendor. The Retrofits of the Galaxy/Defiant/Voyager, the Multi-vector escort, or the Regent class refit, that each include an exclusive console and cost 2000 Zen (or given out free if you have the 300-day vet reward) are RA ships; the one in the starter pack falls into this category and is priced accordingly.

You are thinking of the 2500 Zen 10-console ships like the Odyssey, Vesta, and lockbox ships. They are also VA ships, but are the equivalent of Fleet ships rather than the ones above. Even if you get the bundle, you will probably be able to buy a 10-console fleet version of the ship for 500 Zen extra later and make use of the special console.
Only the 3-pack 2500/5000-for-3 zen ships are 10 console. Other 2500 zen ships (which is in fact any VA ship except the VA retrofits that they used to give out free: Atrox, armitage, and regent for example) are also only 9 consoles. This means that all 4 of the the t5 ships in the legacy pack will be 9 consoles.

Also, they confirmed that the fleet versions will be available at launch, the fleet versions don't have the special console (but can use it), and that you do get the discount for owning the original c-store one.
Survivor of Remus
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Posts: 315
# 639
04-20-2013, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
Wish I had that faith....I can't throw money like that till I get more information.
I think its important to say that not everyone is playing for optimization. This is why sometimes we go into elite STFs and it takes more than 6 minutes, because people are flying ships that they LIKE and don't focus on the stats as much.

This is why people will fly the D'Deridex retrofit, even if it comes out with the current placeholder stats putting it alongside the Galaxy and Neg'var retrofits in terms of BOff slots.
(Which, since its a t4, 24th century cruiser retrofit, it has every right to have)
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# 640
04-20-2013, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by apulse View Post
If you compare to the C-store, this is a good deal.
If you compare to the average Expansion pack, then this is robbery.
Highest expansionpack I ever bought was for 50 euro, nowdays its mostly 29-39 euro.

This expansionpack costs 125 dollar a.k.a 119 euro.. must be the worlds most expansive Expansion pack ever created for PC. Someone call Guinness World Records.

Though I am probably going to spend 119 euro on this.. because I can.. but overall this is a bad strategy for Perfect World. If they put down the price to 60-70 dollars, then they would get more sales.
Everything over 100 euro / dollar creates caution then instent buy.
Thing is this is not an expansion pack. You need none of it to play the new faction.
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