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# 51
04-26-2013, 01:25 PM
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I agree, and what if someone doesn't even know if they are a8using something, may8e they think its just the true mechanics of the game, and then suddenly they are 8anned for no reason?

They know they are exploiting it, you don't just fall into it, you have to go out of your way to do it.

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# 52
04-26-2013, 01:27 PM
I am pretty sure the peeps who got millions of dilithium within a few days. knew full well that it was taking the proverbial.
It has also been well documented that previous types of these exploits were not allowed.

If you did take part, and I am not talking about doing it once or twice here. Then you took your chance and lost....

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# 53
04-26-2013, 02:02 PM
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Don't take advantage of an exploit, and you won't have problems...when you see an exploit you're suppose to report it and move on....not use it till they fix it.
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# 54
04-26-2013, 02:29 PM
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Give me break. When you get 30,000 Dilithium for something you know is only supposed to give you 480 you clearly know you're abusing an exploit.
Just speaking about rewards, is it listed anywhere what the dilithium per minute rate of a foundry mission is supposed to be? I'm pretty sure I've never seen it, so I can only guess based on the foundry missions I have done. But you see, I can't do that either, since foundry rewards aren't based on my play time, they are based on the average of the play time of everyone before me. So, while 30,000 from one mission might seem out of line, I wouldn't really know, would I? Just talking in general about foundry mission rewards.
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# 55
04-26-2013, 02:44 PM
On the subject of the Foundry expliot. Since I have done a few foundry missions for dil, and still don't know what anyone is talking about (I know there is/was an exploit, but what it is exactly or how to replicate it is still a mystery), it clearly isn't something that can just be fallen into.

If you actively seek something out, you really are going to have to be ready for those consequences and the reality that you may not like them.
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# 56
04-26-2013, 02:47 PM
Captains, may I point out that any and all discussion of exploits is being met with a wary eye and a hand on the banhammer?

Please cease and desist discussing it in any way, shape, or form. Especially do not discuss the mechanics of it.

I'm not threatening. I'm saying this because I'd hate for folks to get banned from the forums when it could be avoided by simply not talking about it.
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# 57
04-26-2013, 07:09 PM
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Give me break. When you get 30,000 Dilithium for something you know is only supposed to give you 480 you clearly know you're abusing an exploit.
How do you know what a mission will reward until it rewards it in the foundry?

i have played missions that took an hour for me but since a bunch of people got through it in 30 minutes it only gave me 320 dil. another mission that took me 30 minutes but others stretched the average to 1-2 hours it rewarded 1440.

so clearly stretching the average time is also an exploit and an exploit is an exploit.

Maybe dilithium rewards in the foundry sould be a flat 480 regardless of time in mission or none at all.

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# 58
04-26-2013, 07:21 PM
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How do you know what a mission will reward until it rewards it in the foundry?

i have played missions that took an hour for me but since a bunch of people got through it in 30 minutes it only gave me 320 dil. another mission that took me 30 minutes but others stretched the average to 1-2 hours it rewarded 1440.

so clearly stretching the average time is also an exploit and an exploit is an exploit.

Maybe dilithium rewards in the foundry sould be a flat 480 regardless of time in mission or none at all.
This is more complicated than that. Nobody will do this on that scale accidentally.

I know what it is after talking to some people who confirmed some suspicions. Actually, somebody started to tell me and, five words in, I figured it out.

I won't discuss what it is. It will get you banned. Better to drop it. Playing any one standard Foundry mission will not get you in trouble. This is a trickier exploit than that and a coordinated effort that nobody will do accidentally.
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# 59
04-26-2013, 07:37 PM
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How do you know what a mission will reward until it rewards it in the foundry?

i have played missions that took an hour for me but since a bunch of people got through it in 30 minutes it only gave me 320 dil. another mission that took me 30 minutes but others stretched the average to 1-2 hours it rewarded 1440.

so clearly stretching the average time is also an exploit and an exploit is an exploit.

Maybe dilithium rewards in the foundry sould be a flat 480 regardless of time in mission or none at all.
I guess you can have that discussion with your attorney when you try and sue Cryptic for kicking you off your account.
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